09-22-08 PC Minutes
Regular Meeting of the
Golden Valley Planning Commission
September 22, 2008
A regular meeting of the Planning Commission was held at the Golden Valley City Hall,
Council Chambers, 7800 Golden Valley Road, Golden Valley, Minnesota, on Monday,
September 22,2008. Chair Keysser called the meeting to order at 7 pm.
Those present were Planning Commissioners Cera, Keysser, Kluchka, McCarty, and
Schmidgall. Also present was Director of Planning and Development Mark Grimes, and
Administrative Assistant Lisa Wittman. Commissioners Eck and Waldhauser were absent.
Mayor Loomis was in attendance to discuss the Lilac Planting project scheduled for
October 4. She explained that the idea to plant lilacs and other shrubs and trees along
Highway 55 came from Envision Golden Valley and Bridge Builders. She explained that the
funds for the plant materials and landscape plans came from MnDOT. She referred to a
map of the area and stated that they will be planting on both sides of Highway 55 from
General Mills Blvd. to Winnetka Ave and invited the Planning Commissioners to participate
in the volunteer efforts.
1. Approval of Minutes
August 11, 2008 RegUlar Planning Commission Meeting
McCarty referred to the third paragraph on page 15 and stated that he would like it clarified
that his intention was that he would like to see the proposed building be set back further (not
just taller) from the property line along Golden Valley Road.
MOVED by Cera, seconded by McCarty and motion carried unanimously to approve the
August 11, 2008 minutes with the above clarification.
2. Informal Public Hearing - Minor Subdivision - Quail Woods -1825 Quail Avenue
- SU06-03
Applicant: Peter Knaeble (Golden Valley Land Co.)
Address: 1825 Quail Avenue
Purpose: The subdivision would create three separate lots and allow for the
construction of two new homes. The existing home will remain.
Grimes referred to a location map and noted that the location of his proposed subdivision is
at the southwest corner of Golden Valley Road and Quail Avenue near Scheid Park. He
explained that the applicant is proposing to subdivide the 38,714 square foot lot into three
new lots. He added that the existing home will remain, but the existing garage will be
relocated. He stated that all three lots exceed the minimum lot size requirements and noted
that utilities are available to each lot. He explained that when building permits are applied
for, a tree preservation plan and grading and erosion control plan will be required for each
lot. He stated that staff is recommending approval of this proposed subdivision because it
meets all of the requirements of the zoning code and subdivision code.
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Kluchka asked ifthere are any covenants on this property. Grimes said he is not aware of
any covenants on this property. Kluchka asked about the owner of the property. Grimes
stated that the applicant has purchased this property from a trust.
Peter Knaeble, Applicant, stated that his intent is to remodel the existing house which has
been vacant for about a year. He clarified that the sale of the property closes at the end of
October at which time he will rearrange the location of the existing driveway and garage
and start renovating the existing home. He reiterated that all three lots exceed the
minimum standards and that all three homes will meet all of the setback requirements. He
stated that the property is heavily wooded and that the vast majority of the trees will
remain however one or two may be removed on each lot in order to construct the new
homes.
Keysser asked the applicant if he plans to sell the parcels after the property is subdivided
or if he is planning on building the homes on the lots and then selling them. Knaeble
stated that he is subdividing the property then selling the lots to builders or buyers who
would then build custom homes.
Keysser asked the applicant if he anticipates doing any grading of the property. Knaeble
said no and explained that the grading on the individual lots will be done by the builders
when the homes are built.
McCarty referred to Lot 3, the northern most lot, and asked about the square footage of
the proposed home. Knaeble said the footprint would be approximately 1,500 square feet
and the home would be approximately 2,500 to 3,000 square feet in size. Grimes added
that staff and the applicant have made sure that the existing home and both new homes
will meet all of the new setback requirements without any variances being issued.
Kluchka suggested adding a condition of approval that states no variances will be granted
in the future for any of these homes.
Schmidgall asked the applicant if he is planning on "rouging-in" the utilities to the
proposed new lots. Knaeble said they will be "roughing-in" the utilities but not until the first
house is ready to be built.
Grimes asked the applicant to discuss the trees on the property. Knaeble said they did a
complete tree survey. He explained that on Lot 1 there may be one tree removed
depending on the placement of the house. On Lot 2 there may be a couple of trees
removed behind the existing house and on Lot 3 one or two trees may be removed in
order to build a new house. He stated that they will be doing individual tree preservation
plans for each lot.
Keysser asked if there will be a rain garden installed on Lot 2 where the existing house is
located. Knaeble said he is not planning on installing a rain garden at this point but he is
waiting to see what the Bassett Creek Management Commission will require. Grimes
added that this development is small enough not to require any ponding but it will require
that best management practices be followed.
Keysser opened the public hearing.
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Roma Witzig, 1840 Quail Avenue North, asked if the developer could give some
background information on his company, projects they've done in the past and builders
they have used. She asked what assurances the neighbors have as to the quality of these
proposed new homes. She said she is very concerned about these homes becoming
rental properties and she wants to be notified when the proposed new homes are to be
built.
Lynn Gitelis, 4945 Golden Valley Road, said she will end up living next to whatever is built
on this property. She said that some of the existing trees may not be worth preserving
because they are dying. She said she is concerned about having extra activity and a
garage and cars right next door to her. She said she would prefer if two houses were built
instead of three. She referred to the traffic in the area and stated that it is very difficult to
turn left off of Quail Avenue onto Golden Valley Road throughout most of the day. She
said it would be great to see someone living at this property again but reiterated that she
would rather see two houses built, not three. She said she would like to see the property
cleaned up and she is also concerned about the design of the new houses.
Catherine Martignacco, 4846 Golden Valley Road, said she keeps her eye on Golden
Valley. She said she is concerned, and knows there are others concerned, about these
houses becoming rental properties and she would strongly object to any kind of twin
home or rental property being built here. She said she agrees that two houses would be
better than three and that traffic is a concern.
Sam Madrid, 4900 Frontenac Avenue, said he is concerned about the impact to the side
yard setback area next to his property. He said he realizes this project isn't going to be
stopped by the neighborhood but he lives next to Lot 1 and even though the applicant is
legally meeting the setback requirements he would like to see a larger setback area
between his property and the proposed new Lot 1. He said he thinks the side and front
yard setbacks should be consistent with the other side and front yard setbacks in the
neighborhood. He added that he would also like windows along the south side of the
proposed house on Lot 1 minimized for his privacy.
Seeing and hearing no one else wishing to comment, Keysser closed the public hearing.
Knaeble discussed some of the other projects he has done in Golden Valley and other
cities and discussed his background.
Kluchka referred to the other projects the applicant has done and asked if he just
subdivided the properties to prepare them for sale or if he has built houses on the
properties and then sold them. Knaeble said he mostly does infill developments where he
subdivides properties and sells them to builders to build what they want. He explained
that he doesn't know what type or style these proposed new homes will be, but the plans
will be reviewed by the City and the City does not have any design standards so he
doesn't know if the neighbors will be able to have input on the building design. He said he
recognizes that this property has been abandoned and is run-down but it is his intent to
clean it up. He referred to the concerns expressed regarding traffic and said he doesn't
see two more lots having an impact to the existing streets. He referred to the concerns
about rental properties and stated that the property is zoned R-1 so single-family homes
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will be built but if someone wants to rent out their home in the future he has no control
over that and he is not sure if the City does either.
Kluchka questioned the proposed location of the existing garage. Knaeble said he is not
sure yet where on the lot the garage will be placed but it will probably be attached to
home and it will meet all setback requirements.
Grimes referred to the concern about the quality of the proposed new homes and stated
that the City does not require single-family homes to be reviewed by neighboring property
owners.
McCarty said he would be in favor of this proposal with the condition added that there will
be no variance requests made in the future. Keysser questioned if the City can legally not
allow someone to ask for a variance.
Grimes stated that a stipulation regarding not allowing future variances has been put in
subdivision development agreements in the past. He stated that the City Council can
always choose to override a subdivision development agreement. He added that he
thinks there is plenty of room for good sized houses on these proposed lots without
needing any variances.
Knaeble said he thinks it would be unfair to the new homeowners to preclude variances
because it is not required for any of the other homes in Golden Valley. He added that he
would ask the City Council to strike language in the subdivision development agreement
regarding not allowing future variances because no one can foresee what the future
zoning code requirements will be.
Keysser suggested getting the City Attorney's opinion regarding future variances. He
noted that just because a homeowner asks for a variance doesn't mean they would get
one and he would like to leave that condition out of the Planning Commission's approval
and let the Board of Zoning Appeals do their job regarding variance requests.
Cera said he agreed with McCarty and Kluchka that there should be a condition of
approval that no variances will be allowed on these lots in the future. Grimes agreed and
said there really is no reason or justification for variances on any of these proposed lots.
He explained that there is a state statute that says subdivision agreements are subject to
the zoning regulations currently in place for two years from the time of approval of the
subdivision agreement.
McCarty stated that putting language in the subdivision development agreement about
not allowing future variances doesn't mean that a homeowner can't come before the
Board of Zoning Appeals and ask for a variance especially if it is for a hardship created by
the City if the zoning code requirements are amended.
Keysser suggested the Commissioners take a separate vote on the issue of adding a
condition regarding allowing future variances.
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The following Commissioners voted yes to add a condition of approval stating that future
variances would not be allowed: Cera, Kluchka and McCarty. Commissioners Keysser
and Schmidgall voted no.
Kluchka asked Grimes about the best way for the neighbors to mitigate the traffic issues.
Grimes stated that there has been additional right-of-way given as a part of this proposal.
He stated that this proposal would add approximately 20 trips per day to the existing
traffic, not counting the 10 trips per day for the existing home. He noted that the City
Engineer does not have concerns about the traffic being generated by this proposal, but
he could ask him to address the issue before this proposal goes on to the City Council.
Kluchka asked what the neighbors could do to be proactive about the traffic issues.
Grimes suggested they talk to the Director of Public Works or the City Engineer about
their traffic concerns.
MOVED by McCarty, seconded by Kluchka and motion carried unanimously to
recommend approval of the request to subdivide the property located at 1825 Quail
Avenue into three lots with the following conditions:
1. The City Attorney will determine if a title review is necessary prior to approval of the final
plat.
2. A park dedication fee in the amount of $1,100 shall be paid prior to final plat approval.
3. A Subdivision Agreement will be drafted for review and approval by the City Council
that will include issues found in the City Engineer's memo dated September 12,2008.
4. No future variances will be allowed on any of these lots.
Roma Witzig, 1840 Quail Avenue North, asked the applicant when the existing home
would be renovated and if there is a prospective buyer for the house. She asked who
would be responsible for the upkeep of the property until they sell the lots. She added that
she never realized how few rights property owners have.
Knaeble said he would be responsible for the properties when they close on the sale at
the end of October. He said the renovations will begin right away and then the existing
home and new lots will be sold.
Grimes explained that there is a single-family housing maintenance code that these
houses will be subject to follow. Knaeble stated that there will be a period of transition but
that the existing house has been in transition for a year and a half already. He added that
in 2006 when the streets were reconstructed in this area the City assessed the property
owner for three lots, not two, so the owners expected there to be three lots in the future.
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3. Reports on Meetings of the Housing and Redevelopment Authority, City
Council, Board of Zoning Appeals and other Meetings
McCarty reported on the September 16 City Council meeting. He stated that the
Preliminary PUD plan for Applewood Pointe was approved and that most of the
discussion was related to the appropriateness of the size of the project on the property.
Kluchka added the City Council did not approve the rezoning of the property but rather
sent it back to the Planning Commission to further discuss the language and
requirements in the R-4 zoning district.
McCarty stated that the Council also approved a variance request that was appealed to
them regarding the height of a proposed new house to be located at 6925 Medicine Lake
Road.
4. Other Business
No other business was discussed.
5. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 8:20 pm.
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Lester Eck, Sec~tary