01-26-09 PC Minutes
Regular Meeting of the
Golden Valley Planning Commission
January 26,2009
A regular meeting of the Planning Commission was held at the Golden Valley City
Hall, Council Chambers, 7800 Golden Valley Road, Golden Valley, Minnesota, on
Monday, Janyary 26,2009. Chair Keysser called the meeting to order at 7 pm.
Those present were Planning Commissioners Cera, Eck, Keysser, McCarty,
Schmidgall and Waldhauser. Also present was Director of Planning and Development
Mark Grimes, City Planner Joe Hogeboom and Administrative Assistant Lisa Wittman.
Commissioner Kluchka was absent.
1. Approval of Minutes
January 12, 2009 Regular Planning Commission Meeting
Waldhauser referred to the second paragraph on page 7 and clarified that the
Commission discussed pavers "of any kind" not just pavers. She also clarified that that
when she was talking about screening she was referring to screening with plants.
Eck noted a few typographical errors.
MOVED by Eck, seconded by Waldhauser and motion carried unanimously to
approve the January 12, 2009 minutes with the above noted corrections/clarifications.
2. Informal Public Hearing - Planned Unit Development and Preliminary Plat
- Southwest Quadrant of 1-394 and Highway 100 - The Towers at West End
Applicant: Duke Realty
Address: Southwest Quadrant of 1-394 and Highway 100
Purpose: To allow for the construction of a 4,400 space (approximate)
parking structure in Golden Valley. This will support up to 1.1
million square feet of proposed office space to be built adjacent to
the ramp in St. Louis Park.
Grimes stated that this proposal consists of two different items, the Planned Unit
Development and the Preliminary Plat. He referred to a location map and noted that
this proposal is located in the far southeast corner of the City. He stated that the
property is designated for commercial/office on both the Comprehensive Plan Map
and the Zoning Map. He showed the Planning Commissioners a map indicating where
hearing notices for this meeting were sent. He explained that typically hearing notices
are sent to property owners within 500 feet of the subject property but in this case that
area was greatly expanded in order to get input from the public.
Grimes referred to a map of the entire project and explained that the retail and service
portion of the project is on the west side of the site and the office portion is on the east
side of the site. He stated that the applicant is going through a similar approval
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process with the City of St. Louis Park because most of the project is in St. Louis Park.
(The Preliminary PUD was recommended for approval by the St. Louis Park Planning
Commission last week.) Only the proposed parking ramp and a portion of the
connections from the ramp to the office building are in Golden Valley. He explained
that the proposed total area of office space is 1.1 million square feet and will be a
phased development in three or four buildings. At this point in time the applicant is
asking for preliminary approval and they intend on waiting for a market for the office
buildings before they will go ahead with the final plan approvals.
He explained that when looking at a preliminary plan it is a broad review to make sure
it is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan and general development concepts
accepted by the City. He noted that there will be two building permits issues, one from
St. Louis Park for the office buildings and one from Golden Valley for the parking
ramp. He added that building inspections will be done by each City for the buildings in
their City. Each city will handle public safety to the buildings in their City and there will
be cooperation in fire and police calls.
Grimes referred to a drawing of the proposed office buildings and stated that they will
be approximately 9 stories in height. The parking ramp will have six levels above
ground and one level below ground and will be approximately 55 feet in height with the
stair/elevator tower being 75 feet in height. The parking ramp will have approximately
4,400 parking spaces when all of the office buildings are built which is a ratio of 1
space per 250 square feet of floor area as required by the Zoning Code. He stated
that the proposal also calls for bicycle parking at a rate of 10% of the parking stalls
which is more than required by the Zoning Code. He explained that half of the bicycle
parking is proof of parking so only half the bicycle spaces will be built right away. He
added that the applicant is proposing to reduce the size of the parking stalls from the
required 9 feet by 18.5 feet to 8.5 feet by 18 feet. He said staff believes that is
reasonable for a parking ramp facility. He added that the proposed parking ramp will
be located close to the Wayzata Blvd. frontage road with a sidewalk and landscaping
between the parking deck and the Wayzata Blvd. frontage road. The parking deck will
be made of concrete panels that will match the office buildings.
Grimes stated that one concern staff has about this proposed development is the
effect it will have on traffic along the Wayzata Blvd. frontage road to the east. He said
staff is working with Duke regarding traffic calming techniques, increasing pedestrian
accessibility and improving access in and out of the Tyrol neighborhood. He added
that these issues will have to be agreed upon prior to final PUD approval. He referred
to an AUAR study that was done by St. Louis Park which showed traffic from this
development will work with the existing street system and with the improvements that
were proposed in the AUAR study.
Grimes stated that staff is recommending approval of the proposed parking ramp with
the following conditions:
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1. The parking deck shown in the plans for The Towers at West End prepared by
Duke and Walsh Bishop Architects and dated 12/12/08 shall become a part of
this approval.
2. The parking deck will be phased with the first phase consisting of about 1200
parking spaces on seven levels.
3. The memo and recommendations found in a memo from City Engineer Jeff
Oliver, PE, to Mark W. Grimes, Director of Planning and Development, and dated
January 21, 2009 shall become a part of this recommendation.
4. The memo and recommendations found in a memo from Deputy Fire Marshal Ed
Anderson to Mark W. Grimes, Director of Planning and Development and dated
January 9, 2009 shall become a part of this recommendation.
5. The Preliminary Plat of The Towers at West End is acceptable with changes
recommended by the City Engineer.
Keysser referred to a map of the site and noted that there are two ingress/egress
points onto what is being called a private road south of Wayzata Blvd. He asked
where the private road leads to heading south. Grimes said the road leads to the
HealthPartners building and goes all the way around the existing building. Keysser
asked if the road will lead to another street or if it will dead-end within the complex.
Grimes said the road will dead-end within the complex. He explained that at one time
during the planning of this project there were four openings on the east side of the
parking ramp. It was the City Council's opinion that it should be reduced to two
openings so that is what the applicant has done. Grimes referred to the City
Engineer's memo and noted that he is concerned about the tee intersection noted on
the plans so that is something that will also need to be addressed by the applicant.
Eck referred to the City Engineer's memo and noted that the concern is considerable
from the neighborhood to the east about the amount of traffic that will be going along
the Wayzata Blvd. frontage road. He asked Grimes to discuss what the traffic calming
techniques will consist of. Grimes referred to a map showing some of the ideas from
the AUAR. He explained that the map shows the intersections of the streets that come
out onto the frontage road and the idea is to increase the sight distance at these
intersections. Eck said that will do nothing regarding the amount of traffic on the
streets, it will only help people get in and out of their neighborhood. Grimes stated that
the AUAR and the analysis done by the city's traffic engineer shows that the streets
have the capacity for the increased traffic, the idea is to improve the intersections. Eck
said it is his understanding from the neighbors that the problem is going to be the
sheer number of cars, not if they are going to be able to see better at the intersections.
Grimes said no one is denying that there isn't going to be more traffic but with some.
improvements people will be able to get in and out of the neighborhood safely.
Cera asked if the AUAR considered the traffic when the previous small buildings were
located on this property or if it only considered today's traffic figures. Grimes stated
that there used to be 175,000 square feet of office space on this site and that the
AUAR considered 1.1 million square feet of office space.
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Keysser asked if the hotel currently being constructed is a part of this project. Grimes
said no. He referred to a site plan and noted the applicant's proposed hotel location.
Waldhauser asked if there are any specific proposals for traffic calming on the
frontage road. Grimes stated that part of the AUAR looked at ways to help people get
on and off the street at each of the intersections within the South Tyrol and Kennedy
neighborhoods which may include improvements that will slow traffic down as well. He
reiterated that no permits will be issued by the City until the applicant submits plans for
traffic calming that are acceptable to the City. Waldhauser asked if anyone has
considered having fewer, but better controlled connections or access points from the
Tyrol neighborhood to Wayzata Blvd. Grimes stated that the city's traffic engineer
believes improving the sight distance at the intersections will be an improvement for
everyone in the area. Waldhauser said she is concerned that if that plan doesn't work
it will then be at Golden Valley's expense to come up with a solution.
David Bade, Development Manager, Duke Realty, Applicant, showed the Planning
Commission aerial photos of the site from summer 2007 before any work was started.
He then showed an aerial photo of the current conditions of the site. He referred to
perspective drawings showing three and four office buildings and stated that based on
market conditions there may only be three office buildings with the same amount of
square footage.
Waldhauser referred to the shade study that was done and asked if that study was
based on having three or four buildings. Bade said the shade study was based on
having four buildings. He stated that if there are three buildings they would be taller
and the shade study would change.
Bade showed perspective drawings of the proposed buildings connected to the
parking ramp and noted the pedestrian walk-through area that would provide a
pedestrian connection and allow access to the large green space in the center of the
site. He said he realizes that the City has some concerns about the pedestrian walk-
through area and they are willing to change their plans if needed in order to provide a
safe pedestrian connection.
Waldhauser asked the applicant if they have considered splitting the parking ramp into
two smaller ramps instead of having one gigantic ramp. Bade said that they are
flexible with the design of the ramp but it will depend on the types of users in the office
buildings.
Keysser asked if the office buildings themselves will have any parking areas or if all of
the parking will be in the proposed ramp. Bade stated that all of the parking for the
office buildings will be in the ramp.
McCarty asked the applicant if they end up with two buildings if they would still have
one large parking ramp. Bade said they wouldn't necessarily have one large parking
ramp. He reiterated that it is a phased development so it really depends on the type of
users in the office buildings. McCarty asked the applicant if they have any potential
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tenants. Bade said they are hoping the excitement from the retail portion of the project
will draw in office tenants. He stated that construction of the first office tower could
potentially begin late this fall and the buildings typically take 18 months to build.
Keysser asked about parking for the potential hotel use. Bade said the potential hotel
would have some parking under the building, some on.grade surface parking and
maybe a small ramp.
Bade referred to the AUAR and explained that there were certain improvements
brought forward as a result of the AUAR. He discussed the improvements that have
been made to Park Place Blvd. such as lane widening, extra lane capacity, extra turn
lanes, traffic timing and park and ride adjustments. He stated that earlier this year
SEH did a traffic calming study pertaining more to the east side of Highway 100. He
referred to photos of many of the intersections in Golden Valley along Wayzata Blvd.
and discussed some of the proposed improvements such as bump.outs, striping,
shrub clearing and sidewalk extensions. He explained that they understand there are
resident concerns and potential traffic issues. He said they are trying to help the issue
by reducing the number of exit points from the ramp. They are also trying to promote
traffic flow onto Utica which would then use 16th and Park Place and the
improvements that are now in place.
Bade discussed the stormwater management issues with this project and explained
that they have been working with the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District for two
years. He talked about the below grade infiltration pipes they are using to direct water
and reduce run.off by 87% compared to pre.construction conditions. He stated that
they are reducing phosphorus by 65% and they have partnered with the Minnehaha
Creek Watershed District to create small green roof areas and options for rain
gardens, green walls and cisterns to capture run-off from the parking ramp to use as
gray water for irrigation.
Keysser opened the public hearing.
Gary Cohen, 4530 Douglas Avenue, stated that he has attended many meetings
regarding this and other proposals. He stated that January 29, 2008 was the last
public meeting held on this topic where traffic calming options were discussed. He
said after that time, Duke and the City of Golden Valley ceased discussions regarding
the Golden Valley portion of this proposal. He said he is pleased that Duke has
reduced the number of entrances and exits on the ramp from four to two. He said the
design and quality of the proposed development have never been a concern to him
but his paramount concern is traffic and how it will impact his neighborhood. He said
he has the following requests to make of the Planning Commission and City Council
as they consider this proposal: 1) reconvene a neighborhood meeting in Golden Valley
to review the traffic calming measures, 2) continue traffic counts in the neighborhood
both pre and post construction of the retail portion of the Duke development, 3)
continue to confirm and produce formal documentation showing that there is no
intention of ever extending 16th Street through the entire project allowing traffic to exit
through the development into the Golden Valley neighborhoods, 4) continue to work
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with MnDOT on improving the existing frontage road. He said he has no doubt Duke
will have a high quality project he just his trying to find ways to alleviate traffic
problems that he knows are going to get worse.
Joseph Lee, 400 Tyrol Crest, said his concern is traffic. He said right now on June
Avenue visibility is one issue because of the winding roads, but the quantity of traffic is
a problem as well. He said he would like to see a yellow blinking light or a stop sign
installed. He referred to Mr. Bade's discussion of "bump-outs" as a traffic calming
technique and asked how the bump-outs will help solve the traffic problems.
Robert Lazear, 1519 Natchez Avenue South, said he wrote a letter to the City last
year regarding this proposal and passed out copies of his letter. He said he also
appreciates that Duke and the two cities have listened to the neighbor's concerns and
have done some improvements. He said what it comes down to is that they are a land
locked neighborhood and there are only two ways to get in and out their
neighborhood, making it very difficult. He questioned once this development is done
what can be done to make sure they can safely turn into their neighborhood. He said
he is concerned about traffic from the development being pushed out onto Wayzata
Blvd. rather than onto 16th Street and Park Place which have more capacity. He said
he doesn't recall anyone from MnDOT ever attending any of the meetings regarding
this development and asked if staff could make sure they are in attendance. He said
he believes there is going to be a need for a traffic light on Wayzata Blvd. slightly west
of Natchez Avenue. He referred to the timing of the construction and asked if the
parking ramp will also be developed in phases or if a giant 4,000 space mega ramp is
going to be built if the buildings are built in phases. He added that he would like a
commitment on paper confirming that there will only be two, not four entrance/exit
points from the ramp. He reiterated that his major concern is minimizing traffic and
maximizing safety and agreed that the traffic counts should be revisited in a year or
two from now after the retail space is open.
Todd Shipman, 1510 Fairlawn Way, said it is important to understand that this is a
special piece of street that warrants serious consideration because of the topography
and changes in elevation. He said the City also needs to understand that this area
gets a limited amount of daylight so there is a lot of additional ice and snow that
doesn't get removed. He reiterated that they are a land locked neighborhood so there
are no other alternatives regarding exiting the neighborhood. He said he takes the bus
to work and there is a huge risk of getting hit on the frontage road so he thinks
installing a stoplight is going to be imperative. He said he notices that there is a lot of
commuter traffic that currently parks in the vacant ramps and he doesn't know where
those cars are going to go. He said no matter what the AUAR says the City has to go
a step further and understand the dynamics of the neighborhood.
Betsy Zakrajsheck, 1425 Natchez Avenue South, said traffic and safety are her major
concerns. She said Natchez is currently a major cut through street off of Wayzata
Blvd. and there are no sidewalks on Natchez. She said walking along the frontage
road is dangerous because of the speeding traffic. She is worried about her kids and
the kids in the neighborhood with all of the speeding traffic on Natchez. She said she
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fears that with the back-up of traffic along the frontage road more and more people will
cut through on Natchez to get to Cedar Lake Road to make their way to Highway 100.
James Murray, 1520 Natchez Avenue South, said he is concerned about the AUAR
traffic study because since it was done MnDOT has added lanes along 1-394 down to
the Dunwoody area so now people can cut through and go across to Penn Avenue to
avoid the traffic on 1-394. He said MnDOT has got to have some participation in this
because they've affected the outcome. He said he thinks the traffic study is no longer
relevant to the traffic they are going to have after this proposed development.
Seeing and hearing no one else wishing to comment, Keysser closed the public
hearing.
Pat Mascia, Senior Vice President, Twin Cities Operations, Duke Realty Corp., stated
they've been working on this project for almost 5 years. He said this has been a very
civil discussion and process and realizes it is in their best interest to make sure the
traffic works in this development. He said parking and traffic have been the two
biggest challenges of this project. They are trying to make the traffic situation better by
having retail and office uses together because they generate different traffic patterns.
He said the original environmental impact statement that was done on this site in 1989
assumed that there would be an additional million square feet of office space. He said
there is no intention of extending 16th Street through the development.
Mascia explained that there was a period of time between the original neighborhood
meetings and today's meeting because the two cities had originally talked about
having a Joint Powers Agreement but that did not come about, the ramp had to be re-
engineered to change the number of exits from four to two and the market conditions
changed. He referred to the question regarding the use of "bump-outs" as a traffic
calming technique and explained that they are still in the process of figuring out what
measures will work best. He referred to the concern about commuter traffic currently
parking in the vacant ramps and noted that those cars belong to the construction
employees currently working on site and are not commuters as suggested. He added
that he also thinks it's a good idea to work with MnDOT.
Keysser referred to the site plans and asked if any thought has been given to having
all the exits from the parking ramp be on the west side and having no exits on the
north or east sides. Mascia explained that there have to be exits on the north side to
allow the ramp to function properly. He said that the site probably won't be fully
developed for approximately 10 years and reducing the exits from four to two is the
best they can do. Grimes added that the plans would be approved based on the plans
submitted so there can't be any major changes from what has been submitted.
Keysser asked what would happen if one large tenant came in and wanted a different
parking ramp. Grimes explained that if the parking ramp design changes significantly
from what is approved the applicant would have to come back to the City for approval.
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Grimes reiterated that there will have to be traffic calming measures approved prior to
final plan approval so that when the office buildings open the traffic improvements will
be in place.
Grimes referred to the proposed pedestrian walk-through in the parking ramp and
stated that staff has some concerns about the safety of it. He said staff would like to
see a pedestrian connection and would like to suggest that language be added saying
the pedestrian walk-through will be revisited at a later date rather than just saying no
to the proposed walk-through at this point.
Keysser asked if it is a reasonable request to do traffic counts in the area after the
retail portion of the project is open. Grimes said traffic counts could be done fairly
easily. He explained that MnDOT has reviewed these plans and they also have
concerns about the frontage road. He said he is more than willing to try to get a
representative from MnDOT to attend a meeting however he thinks they are going to
want to hear a traffic proposal from the City first. He explained that traffic has to meet
certain standards to warrant signs, traffic lights, etc. and that staff is open and willing
to discuss all of the traffic calming techniques available.
Waldhauser referred to the pedestrian walk-through area and said she would like
there to be a condition of approval that there will be a safe and attractive pedestrian
access route from the Tryol area through both the office buildings and parking ramp to
the retail area. Grimes recommended that the Planning Commission specifically add
that language as a condition of approval. McCarty agreed with the need for pedestrian
access through the ramp. Schm!dgall said he thinks it could be safely done by
separating the ramp into two crossover drives where cars don't come near
pedestrians.
Grimes said he would also like to add a condition of approval regarding having
another neighborhood meeting to discuss traffic calming issues prior to final plan
approval.
Cera referred to the proposed bump outs on the frontage road intersections and said
in his opinion they are hazardous. He said with the topography, curves and the ice in
that area he feels the bump outs would be dangerous. He agreed that MnDOT really
needs to be involved in this development.
Eck stated that traffic is the number one concern and Golden Valley is being asked to
come up with solutions to a problem that is not of our making. He said the Planning
Commission is being asked to recommend approval of this proposal without having
any valid idea of whether this traffic issue is going to be a serious problem or not or
how it is going to be solved. He said he is in support of the proposal and hopes the
traffic issues are taken seriously.
McCarty said he is concerned about the size of the ramp. He asked if there is any
accommodation in this ramp regarding the future of traffic such as electric cars, hybrid
cars, smaller cars, etc. He asked if the ramp design is based on historical traffic data.
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He also asked about the parking ratio requirements and asked if those numbers are
outdated and suggested maybe the ratio be decreased if possible. Grimes stated that
one advantage in building the parking ramp in phases is that these types of items can
be addressed in the future. Mascia said the ramp hasn't been designed yet. He
explained that it will be designed in accordance with the market at the time it is built.
Grimes noted that requiring 1 space per 250 square feet of floor area is fairly standard
and he wants to be flexible depending on the type of tenant using the ramp. Mascia
said they would like to build as few parking spaces as possible because each space
costs money in structured parking. Grimes stated that many of these issues are
addressed in the Traffic Management Plan.
McCarty referred to the idea of recounting the traffic after the retail portion of the site is
open and noted that retail and office use have different peak times so he questions if
the retail counts would be valid for the office use. Keysser agreed that the trips are not
equal but it would give the City more data. Grimes said he is most concerned about
the am and pm peak trips.
Cera said he is having difficulty making a decision about this proposal because he
would like to see the traffic calming information and he would like to hear from
MnDOT.
MOVED by Eck, seconded by McCarty and motion carried to recommend approval of
Planned Unit Development and Preliminary Plat for The Towers at West End with the
following conditions. Commissioner Cera abstained from voting.
1. The parking deck shown in the plans for The Towers at West End prepared by
Duke and Walsh Bishop Architects and dated 12/12/08 shall become a part of
this approvaL
2. The parking deck will be phased with the first phase consisting of about 1200
parking spaces on seven levels.
3. The memo and recommendations found in a memo from City Engineer Jeff
Oliver, PE, to Mark W. Grimes, Director of Planning and Development, and dated
January 21,2009 shall become a part of this recommendation.
4. The memo and recommendations found in a memo from Deputy Fire Marshal Ed
Anderson to Mark W. Grimes, Director of Planning and Development and dated
January 9, 2009 shall become a part of this recommendation.
5. The Preliminary Plat of The Towers at West End is acceptable with changes
recommended by the City Engineer.
6. There will be a safe and attractive pedestrian access route from the Tryol area
through both the office buildings and parking ramp to the retail area.
7. A neighborhood meeting will be held to discuss traffic calming issues prior to final
plan approval.
--Short Recess--
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4. Reports on Meetings of the Housing and Redevelopment Authority, City
Council, Board of Zoning Appeals and other Meetings
No reports were given.
5. Other Business
Hogeboom reminded the Commissioners that they are invited to attend the
February 10, 2008 Council/Manager meeting where they will be discussing the
Douglas Drive Corridor study.
6. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 9:10 pm.
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