09-08-09 CM Minutes
Council/Manager Meeting Minutes
September 8,2009
Present: Mayor Loomis and Council Members Freiberg, Pentel, Scanlon and Shaffer, City
Manager Tom Burt, Finance Director Sue Virnig, Park and Recreation Director Rick
Jacobson, Golf Operations Manager Ben Disch, Recreation Supervisor Jeanne Fackler, City
Planner Joe Hogeboom, Public Works Director Jeannine Clancy, City Engineer Jeff Oliver
and Assistant City Manager Jeanne Andre.
The meeting began at 6:30 pm in the Council Conference Room.
2010-2011 Proposed Budget Other Funds
The Council reviewed the proposed budgets for enterprise funds including Storm Sewer,
Brookview Golf Course, the Human Services Foundation, Recycling and Motor Vehicle
Licensing. Staff addressed Council questions, but no changes were directed by the Council.
The Council asked staff to assess the reserve levels for the various funds and identify how
to address fund balances that are declining.
Transit for livable Communities Funding Opportunity - Douglas Drive
Joe Hogeboom provided background information on the grant project proposed by Transit
for Livable Communities (TLC) for improvements in the Douglas Drive corridor.
Although the City proposal only provided for a sidewalk on the east side of Douglas Drive,
from the Luce Line Trail to Duluth Street., TLC has expanded the scope of the project and
allocated additional funds. However the additional funds will not cover the cost of the
expanded project, which would include converting the street to three vehicle lanes, two on-
street bike lanes and a new sidewalk on the east side.TLC has also requested the City to
pursue a speed limit of 30-35 mph on Douglas Drive from Golden Valley Road to Medicine
Lake Road. The County Engineer has recommended a speed study to review speeds and is
sending a letter to outline the process. Staff is ready to meet with TLC to further define the
project, identify potential impediments and determine if the City should proceed with an
interim project as proposed by TLC. Staff informed the Council that it is working with the
Hennepin County Transportation Department to pursue the complete rebuild of Douglas
Drive from Highway 55 to Medicine Lake Road through the county's Capital Improvement
Program, sometime after 2015.
With some discussion the Council directed staff to pursue a consulting agreement to design
the project to a 30 percent level in order to better identify the costs, timing and construction
issues related to this project. They also asked staff to identify possible funding sources the
City could tap to compliment the grant funds and go forward with the project as
recommended by TLC now. The Council vision for this interim project includes: street mill
and overlay to convert the street to three vehicle lanes and two bike lanes, a permanent
concrete sidewalk on the east side of the street with new concrete curbs, undergrounded
private utility lines, and permanent railroad and creek crossings. The mill and overlay would
be from Golden Valley Road to Medicine Lake Road, while the new sidewalk would be from
the Luce Line Trail to Duluth Street. The Council definitely wants to pursue underground
private utilities under the new sidewalk and would also like to know the cost of additionally
undergrounding utilities between Duluth Street and Medicine Lake Road as part of this
project. Tom Burt explained that the Council would also need to consider a policy regarding
the cost allotment for private utility connections that would be needed to connect to new
underground trunk lines. Also, some easements might be necessary to build the sidewalk.
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The Council expressed an interest in working with Hennepin County to reduce the speed
limit but noted concerns about a TLC caveat that the construction be done by August 10,
2010, which would be a difficult timeline to meet. Council directed staff to negotiate the
project parameters, as discussed at the meeting, with TLC to see if the grant requirements
can be adjusted in keeping with the Council direction.
2010 Pavement Management Program - Project Issues
Jeannine Clancy and Jeff Oliver reviewed some of the issues that staff has been studying
and consulting about with the neighborhood in preparation for the Public Hearing for the
Project.
. Enhanced green space (and reduced roadway) at Meander Road near Paisley Lane -
A concept for native plantings was presented. The Council supported the approach
but asked that some of the area include no-mow turf in order to create an area where
neighbors could congregate.
. Water Main - Watermains will be replaced in the vicinity of Paisley and Meander
Lane as part of this project.
. Surmountable Curbs - An initial request to consider surmountable curbs in the
Paisley/Meander portion of the project has been withdrawn.
. Harold Avenue Cul-de-Sac - This portion of the street was built to standards in 1992-
93. Staff is recommending storm drainage improvements and a mill and overlay as
part of this project. Since City policy does not assess a mill and overlay, the
assessments to properties served by the cul-de-sac will be modified.
. Traffic Concerns on Westchester Circle, Edgewood and Georgia Avenues - The
neighborhood expressed concerns about cut-through traffic and traffic speeds on
these streets. Staff studied the traffic and determined that about 25 percent of the
traffic did not originate on these streets, but most was from adjacent neighborhoods.
A speed study showed that speeds were slightly above the posted limit. To respond
to these concerns staff is considering signs to promote speed enforcement. Staff is
also recommending a T- intersection at Georgia Avenue and Glenwood. Changes to
street widths are also under consideration. Options are 24 feet, 26 feet, or 28 feet
with 24-foot choker segments. Staff would prefer narrower streets to choker
segments, in order to provide the best level of maintenance in all seasons. These
options will be discussed with residents at a September 10th neighborhood meeting.
. Sidewalks on Georgia and Edgewood Avenues and Winchester Circle - No
sidewalks were proposed for these streets, but neighborhood residents are
circulating a petition to request sidewalks. Since these sidewalks are not on the City's
Sidewalk Plan residents have been informed that an assessment may be required if
sidewalks are constructed. If a petition with more than 50 percent support is
submitted, staff requested that the Council allow staff to bring the petition directly to
the Sidewalk Committee in order to keep the project on schedule for bidding. The
Council agreed with this approach.
Comprehensive Plan Transportation Element - Functional Classification
Designations - Jeannine Clancy reported that staff has identified some City streets that
Golden Valley has classified differently than the Metropolitan Councilor the City of St. Louis
Park. Staff is looking for direction from the City Council on resolving these incompatibilities.
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Mike Kotila of SEH distributed information compiled in response to a meeting earlier in the
day with staff from the Metropolitan Council. He outlined some of the incompatibilities.
. Plymouth Avenue is classified by Golden Valley as a local street and by the
Metropolitan Council as a major collector. Changes to Plymouth Avenue constructed
many years ago did not get into the City's Comprehensive Plan and therefore were
not communicated to the Metropolitan Council. The Council agreed to start a process
with Met Council to reclassify Plymouth as a local street in keeping with its current
use.
. Other streets such as General Mills Boulevard, Regent Avenue, and Duluth Street
are classified as Minor Collectors in Golden Valley, which is not a classification the
Met Council uses in inner ring suburbs.
. Xenia Avenue is classified as a Major Collector in Golden Valley and a Minor Arterial
in St. Louis Park.
Jeannine Clancy suggested that if the above-noted classifications for minor and major
collectors are upgraded there may be more funding options to improve the streets. The
Council requested staff to provide a detailed definition of each classification and a list of
streets where changes should be considered, including the termini for each proposed
classification. With this information the Council will review the status of the streets and
consider reclassifying them at a future Council/Manager Meeting.
Residential Zoning District (R-1) Accessory Structures Setback Requirements
Council Member Pentel reported that she has had a complaint from a resident regarding an
accessory structure constructed three feet from the side-yard setback of another residence,
which is permitted under the City Code. Mayor Loomis noted that she had asked the
Planning Commission to review this type of situation to see if setbacks to side-yard should
be different than those to rear yards. Council Member Shaffer asked for clarification on
requirements for fences in rear yards and whether an eight-foot fence is considered a fence
or a structure in the City Code.
Building Board of Review
Council Member Shaffer reported that he would like to revisit previous discussions about
disbanding the Building Board of Review (BBR). He stated that the current BBR
consideration of a project after all Planning Commission and City Council approvals is
problematical to applicants and their consultants and contractors. He suggested that this
type of review should be built into the planning process, perhaps through an early Building
Official review and submission of comments to the Planning Commission. Another
alternative would be site plan review. The Council agreed with this approach. Tom Burt
indicated he would seek suggestions from staff on the best way to incorporate landscaping
and building review earlier in the process. He will then initiate dissolving the BBR.
The meeting adjourned at 9:25 pm.
Jeanne Andre
Assistant City Manager