04-25-05 Joint PC-CC Agenda
AGENDA
GOLDEN VALLEY PLANNING COMMISSION
Joint Meeting with the City Council
1-394 Corridor Study Kick-Off Presentation
Golden Valley City Hall, 7800 Golden Valley Road
Council Chambers
Monday,ApriI25,2005
7pm
I. 1-394 Corridor Study Kick-Off Presentation - by URS, Planning Consultant
A. Present "Existing" Data
. Land use
. Building character
. Ordinances
B. Direction/approach for study
. I ntended outcomes
. Opportunities for public participation
C. Set Advisory group (2 each Council & Planning Commission)
- Short Recess -
II. Reports on Meetings of the Housing and Redevelopment Authority, City
Council, Board of Zoning Appeals and other Meetings
Approval of Minutes from the April 11, 2005 Planning Commission Meeting
III. Other Business
IV. Adjournment
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1-394 Corridor Study
Involvement by City Council and Planning Commission
Please mark your calendars and plan to be involved in the following key elements of the
1-394 Corridor Study.
April 25
April 25
May2
May 10*
* Meeting
Change from
Monday, May 9
to Tuesday,
May 10
May 21
Kick-Off Presentation at Planning Commission (Joint Meeting
with City Council) - 7 pm
URS will present the existing conditions and an approach to
updating the Comprehensive Plan and considering zoning changes.
Presentation will Include outline of public participation opportunities.
Establish a 4-Member Advisory group (2 each Council & PC)
This group will meet monthly during the study period (May 2005 -
February 2006) to provide advice between meetings and major
decisions by Planning Commission and City Council.
Mobile Tour (5:30-9 pm) - Bus tO,ur starting at City Hall with
box dinners
URS will lead tour of sites that could inform comprehensive
planning decisions in Golden Valley, providing visual images of how
planning choices could affect the corridor.
Speaker Training (6 pm with box dinners) - At City Hall
Staff and URS will prepare a PowerPoint presentation on the study
process to share with interested parties. Over the course of the
study the presentation will be updated with the latest study
information. Neighborhood groups, businesses, churches and local
organizations will be invited to schedule a presentation.
Presentations will be made by a two-member team. Each team will
include a staff member and either a Council or Planning
Commission Member. Scheduling will be on an as-available basis.
Golden Valley Arts and Music Festival Table (10 am - 6 pm)
Staff and URS will prepare a visual preference survey to be shared
with the public at the festival. City Council and Planning
Commissioners will staff the table, explain the study to interested
people and help them complete the survey. There will be 1-2 hour
shifts. This presentation will be carried on for an additional period in
City Hall and will be available on the City Web site.
4-21-05
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Regular Meeting of the
Golden Valley Planning Commission
April 11, 2005
A regular meeting of the Planning Commission was held at the Golden Valley City Hall,
Council Chambers, 7800 Golden Valley Road, Golden Valley, Minnesota, on Monday,
April 11, 2005. Chair Keysser called the meeting to order at 7 pm.
Those present were Commissioners Cera, Eck; Hackett, Keysser, Rasmussen,
Schmidgall and Waldhauser. Also present were Director of Planning and Development,
Mark Grimes, and Administrative Assistant, Lisa Wittman.
March 28, 2005 Joint Planning and Board of Zoning Ap
I. Approval of Minutes
Eck stated that there were some grammatical errors and that
Wittman after the meeting.
MOVED by Rasmussen, seconded by Cera and
the minutes from the March 28, 2005 Joint Plan
meeting.
nimously to approve
oning Appeals
March 28, 2005 Planning Com
. Eck stated that McAleese was Ii
attendance.
MOVED by Eck, second
minutes from the March
correction.
otion carried unanimously to approve the
Commission meeting with the above noted
II.
UD No. 89 Amendment #1 - Golden Meadows
Winnetka Avenue North
The amendment would allow for the existing duplex to be converted
to a triplex.
Grimes stated that in 2001, after several proposals, the Golden Meadows PUDwas
approved by the City Council. He referred to a location map and explainedthatthere are
six single-family home lots and the duplex being discussed included in this PUD.
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Grimes explained that the proposal is to convert the two-family home located on Lots 4
and 5 to three units. He stated that currently the lot line goes right through the middle of
the upper unit and that that would have to be amended in order for this proposal to be
approved.
Minutes of the Gotden Valley Planning Commiss10n
April 11 ,2005
Page 2
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He explained that the applicant is planning to keep the north unit the same as it is now
with space on the upper and lower levels and then the south would have one unit on the
upper level and the lower level would be made into the third unit and would be
approximately 1,100 square feet.
Keysser asked
turnaroun
was all:
were rea
Grimes stated that there is a slight increase in density but that his biggest concern is the
amount of parking available for these units. He explained that there is one garage space
for each unit and that<me car would probably be able to park in the driveway behind each
garage stall. He noted the existing turnaround on the property and said
located on Hennepin County right-of-way and that if the county ever
sidewalk in that location the turnaround would need to be moved.
suggesting that it'this proposal is approved there should. be mor
and possibly another turnaround on the north side of the driv
would mean the loss of a fairly significant tree, but cars sho
Winnetka Avenue. He said that he has looked at the propert
few weeks and there always seems to be a car parke . the
thinks that there. should be some kind of restriction
goes forward that there should be no parking all
has talked to the applicant and that they have s
rental agreement regarding the number of
becomes enforcing ttle parking. He add
would be an issue because there woul.,
I
ded
ately
ackin ut on
ver the last
ea and he
ro if this proposal
und area. He said he
ul ut something in the
ch unit. The problem then
k that the added . traffic
additional trips per day.
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Eck referred'to the garage and a
the tenants would then have ac
showed each individual gar
tenants use.
up to be one large garage area which all
ferred to the original building plans and
ing up to one large garage space that all the
Keysser asked if all
that they are all ren
rentals at this point. Grimes said it is his understanding
P as first approved there was discussion about the
for parking as well. Grimes said when it was first discussed it
elling and there were no changes being proposed so there
at could be made.
t County is actively talking about taking more land to widen the
s explained that the seven feet of area for the sidewalk was dedicated on
e PUD was originally approved.
Eck asked if changing the lot line is an issue they need to be concerned about as part of
this discussion or if it is a separate issue having the lot lin~ running through the middle of
one of the units. Grimes said he thinks the lot line should be removed and suggested that
a condition of approval could be to require the applicant to replat the property to eliminate
that lot line.
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Minutes of the Golden Valley Planning Commission
April 11, 2005
Page 3
Rasmussen asked how much it would cost to have the property replatted. Grimes said he
is not sure how much it would cost but stated that having that property line exist could
complicate things if and when the owners decide to turn the units into condominiums.
Waldhauser asked if the building was constructed with the idea that there would be
different residents on each level. Grimes said it looks like that was what was originally
intended, but that is not was approved.
Waldhauser asked if three units would be permissible under the current zoning district.
Grimes said this is a planned unit development but that originally it was d to R-2
because that was the best fit and the most consistent at the time.
Waldhauser asked how many parking spaces are provided and .
parking are interchangeable or if it is just one big slab of asph
is just asphalt. Waldhauser asked if there is some way to eli
with landscaping or something.
d
now it
. pavement
Keysser said that part of the problem with parking f
be shuffled around. Grimes said that when it wa
a problem, but that because it isa fairly large b
used applicants have said it makes sense ~
Rasmussen asked if a provision could
could be parked in the driveway an
said that something could be put'
rmit that says that one car
arked in the turnaround. Grimes
but the question is enforcing it.
Rasmussen asked if the pe
said the PUD permit can
that if a boat or RV is par
Grimes stated that re r
somet ing about not allowing trailers. Grimes
hing as long as it's reasonable. Keysser stated
y that would make the situation even worse.
no other alternatives.
to the north. Grimes said that lot has been for sale off
e soil conditions there are very poor.
ds would be necessary if the existing turnaround had the no
said he thinks there needs to be one dedicated turnaround that
ed if the turnaround and parking area could be used for parking and then
the drive uld be used for turning around. Keysser said the parking spaces are very
narrow. Grimes agreed that it would be tight.
Hackett asked about the driveway between Lots 5 and 6. Grimes stated that is a
pedestrian walkway to getthe sidewalk on Winnetka Avenue from Valders Court. Hackett
suggested some parking area may be installed on that side of the property. Grimes said
the County would not allow another curb cut on Winnetka.
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Minutes of the Golden Valley Planning Commission
April 11, 2005
Page 4
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Waldhauser noted that the grade goes down from the street level to the lower level of the
building and asked if there have been any issues with water in the lower level. Grimes
said he wasn't aware of any water issues.
Scott Kevitt, SVK Development, Applicant, stated that since they have owned the building
they have thought the lower level would be a good living space for a separate living unit.
He discussed the floor plan of the proposed third unit. He said he would be agreeable to
taking out the tree and creating a new turnaround on the north side.
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Keysser asked if the lower unit is part of the upper tenants space. Ke .
Grimes asked if it' would be a problem for SVK to restrict the nu
tenants own. Kevitt said he wouldn't have a problem with that
help to mark the turnaround space as no parking. Kevitt agr
said another issue is that if cars don't pull all the way up clos
difficult to use the turnaround space. Kevitt agreed th . is n
but said that he has fixed up the building a lot and
t their
also
. Keysser ,
it is still
llic situation
over t was an eyesore.
Eck said that the impetus for trying to provide s
the turnaround has come from Mr. Grimes
with anything with regard to alleviating t
concerns him. Kevitt said he assumed,
parking on the site: Eck asked why
forward.
lutio for the parking and
he applicant come forward
ound problems and that
o something regarding
at and then not bring anything
Waldhauser asked if the pa
Kevitt said that would no
be replaced someplace else on the lot.
Keysser stated ther
on the property. Ke
spaces for gu
and that guest
lies there now and asked how many total vehicles are
t sure. Keysser said another issue would be parking
ould be the same for a lot of the homes on Winnetka
streets.
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alders Avenue North, stated that right now, the tenants park the.ir van
ers Court. He said he is also concerned about parking and asked if
ds to be rezoned. Grimes explained that because this is a PUD it doesn't
oned, but amending a PUD still requires Council approval.
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Blythe asked if this proposal will affect any of the other homes being built on Valders Ct.
Keysser said that as those houses sell, parking along the court will become an issue.
Blythe said people will then start parking in front of his house. Blythe said he heard a
rumor that a garage was going to be built behind this property on Valders Court. Grimes
said he hasn't heard anything like that from the applicant and explained that there is a
dedicated trail and steep slope so it wouldn't work.
Minutes of the Golden Valley Planning Commission
April 11, 2005
Page 5
. Keysser closed the public hearing.
Waldhauser said she is still concerned about parking. She said there could be a potential
of seven adults living there and parking is going to be tight with seven or more vehicles.
Grimes said if there isn't an objection regarding the land use he would suggest tabling the
applicants request and asking the applicant to come back with a parking plan.
Keysser said there are only a couple of options available.
Eck said there may only be a couple of options, but he is disappointed t
didn't have any suggestions to solve the problem. Keysser said his in
approve the proposal because it is just too crowded.
at they haven't
request to see if the
w the parking and garage
Hackett said he agreed and didn't think he could support the
didn't think they wanted to encourage paving all the front ya
. particularly on this property because there is a lot there alrea
not the issue, it is an aesthetic issue of adding more p me
Waldhauser said maybe there is a solution for t
thought about. She said that she would be ok wi
applicant can come up with a specific prop I
space would be laid out and the limitatio
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Hackett said tabling this proposal is '
if the applicant wants to come b
application should be rejected and
roposal then he can come back.
Rasmussen said she is in f
driveway and they are air
be more people living th
much worse. She s ' sh
landscaping and th
the parking sh
person would b
there are
pavem
a block
th'under
enf any
d use. here are already three cars in the
on to Winnetka. She said she realizes there will
.;f the situation it is not really going to be that
't would be a mistake to remove any of the existing
e kind of enforceable solution they could come up for
e said that she doesn't see that adding one more
o difficult than it is now. She said she doesn't see that
'ons and she doesn't want to see the trees taken out and more
people do back out on to Winnetka all of the time or they walk
s eone. She said it would be nice to come up with away to use
~'lJilding. She added that she is concerned about not being able to
of'parking agreement.
Grimes s guage regarding the parking could be put into the PUD Permit and staff
could tell Mr. Kevitt that there has to be language in their leases that tenants must pull all
the way up to the garages and that the turnaround has to be left open but the issue still is
who is going to enforce this.
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Keysser disagreed that the building is under utilized; it was planned as duplex and built as
a duplex. Rasmussen said it is nice to have this type of house with these smaller units in
Golden Valley because they are affordable and don't increase density as much.
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Minutes of the Golden Valley Planning Commission
April 11, 2005
Page 6
Keysser said people are already parking on Valders Court and with a third family moving
in the pressure will be greater for people to park there and it adds to the issue. Kevitt said
that is possible but that it is not illegal for people to park on the street. Keysser agreed
and said that people aren't going to want cars parked in front of their houses.
Rasmussen suggested tabling the request so he could come back with another plan.
Keysser said they could also reject this plan and he could come back. Cera said if this
plan is rejected if they could give the applicant some guidelines as to what they might like
to see.
Keysser said he feels like they've boxed applicant in because they've
parking, but don't take any trees out. He added that he feels it is a
just doesn't have the capacity for a third unit.
Grimes said he thinks it makes more sense to table the req
to the City Council even it the Planning Commission rejects i
looking a plan they would like to see revised and if th ant
table it, otherwise vote against it.
Hackett said a PUD was applied for and approv
the City didn't go through the process to cr
been discussed once before, it was appr
are trying to squeeze another unit out
about it now and it is a waste of the'
applicant had talked about this s
the same concerns about parki
converting the duplex at th .
he come back in the futur
addressed back then the
construction of the er
have worked to put
of ye rs ago. He asked why
n. He said it has already
evelopment and now they
now why they are even talking
g old information. Grimes said the
hen t e PUD was approved and he had
. He said he told Mr. Kevitt that
omplicate the PUD process and recommended
sal. Keysser said maybe if it had been
ve n a way to put a driveway in with the
Valders Court. Grimes said he didn't think it would
n Valders Court.
b he request in order to come back to the Planning
plan for the parking and turnaround areas. Seconded by Eck
table the request. Cera, Eck, Rasmussen and Waldhauser
e request. Hackett, Keysser and Schmidgall voted against
-Short Recess-
V. Reports on Meetings of the Housing and Redevelopment Authority, City
Council, Board of Zoning Appeals and other Meetings
A) 1-394 Corridor Study - Involvement by City Council and Planning Commission
Grimes discussed various dates that he wanted the Commissioners to save for the 1-394
Corridor study meetings and events. He stated that April 25 is the kick-off meeting with
the consultant and the City Council.
Minutes of the Golden Valley Planning Commission
April 11, 2005
Page 7
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May 2 there will be a tour with the consultant to look at other similar highway
developments in other communities. He discussed the visual preference survey and the
idea of giving disposable cameras to the Council and Planning Commissioners to take
pictures of good and bad design ideas. He talked about the business survey of all the
businesses in the 1-394 Corridor and the input being received as well as input from
citizens. He stated that there will also be some training for the Planning Commission to
help with discussion with community groups
B) Appoint 2 Planning Commissioners to the 4-member advisory .
Grimes stated that the City Council would like two Planning Comm' s
four member advisory group for the 1-394 Corridor Study.
art of a
Keysser asked if any of the Commissioners would like to vo
volunteered. Cera and Waldhauser volunteered to be alterna
VI. Other Business
No other business was discussed.
VII. Adjournment
. The meeting was adjourned at 8:20
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