07-09-85 BZA Minutes MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE � O �
GOLDEN VALLEY BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
July 9, 1985
The regular meeting of the Golden Valley Board of Zoning Appeals was
held Tuesday, July 9, 1985, at 7:30 P.M. in the Council Chambers of
the Civic Center, 7800 Golden Valley Road, Golden Valley, Minnesota.
The following Board members were present:
Chairman, Larry Smith
Margaret Leppik
Mike Sell
Mahlon Swedberg
Art Flannagan
The first order of business was approval of the minutes of a regular meeting
held June 11 , 1985, copies of which had previously been distributed to the
Board.
Margaret Leppik moved to approve the minutes as written and presented, second
by Art Flannagan and upon vote carried.
85-7-17 (Map 15) Residential
1600 Florida Avenue North
Robert M. Korstad
The Petition is for waiver of Section
3A.06(3)b side setback, for 8,5 feet off the
required 13.2 foot setback to a dis-
tance of 4 J feet from the east lot
line to the proposed deck addition.
Mr, and Mrs. Korstad were present. The petition was in order. Consent had
been obtained from all adjacent properties. No others were present for this
proposal .
Margaret Leppik noted that the site plan submitted also showed a privacy
fence along the east lot line as part of the deck and landscape and she
questioned whether the Board was to address this also as the tence is 8
feet high.
Secretary Lloyd Becker stated that any fence over 6 feet high requires a
building permit and by practice, upon application for permit, such fences were
sent to the Building Board of Review foc comment. There is no section in the
Residental Zoning Code at this time that sets requirements or limits for fences
other than corner visibility. Therefore, the Board could not address the
fence for any waiver directly. However, as part of the overall proposal , it
could be considered or commented on by the Board in making their determination
on the proposed decks. Lloyd Becker noted that the previous day in reviewing
all the properties that have petitioned for waiver, the fence and landscape
had been installed. The decks had not.
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Mr. Korstad addressed the Board and explained that he missed the date for the
previous Building Board of Review, that he was unfamiliar with boards and pro-
cedures and he was committed to a contract and installation date for the fence
and landscape and had no other alternative but take his chances for subsequent
approval .
Mahlon Swedberg asked if this will still be brought before the Building Board
of Review. Lloyd Becker replied that a permit was required for the decks.
Prior to issuance, the entire proposal , while now somewhat redundant, would be
referred to the Building Board of Review to be consistent with prior procedures.
He described his conversation with City Planner, Mark Grimes, wherein it was
agreed that an amendment to the Residential Zoning Code to address fences, their
placement and height would appear to be warranted, as any fence over 6 feet high
actually may be considered a structural wall . Mahlon Swedberg said he felt the
entire proposal and the height of the fence, in his opinion, really has the
visual impact of a zero lot line structure.
Swedberg also noted the placement originally of the house which crowds it on
the lot toward the east and north lot lines. It presently is 53 plus feet
from Olympia (35 feet required) and there appears to be no other reasonable
location for the decks. This is also a corner lot in a highly visible location
on a well traveled street.
Mr. Korstad explained in further detail the construction of the decks in
conjunction with the overall landscape. He called attention to the adjacent
neighbor's fence, part of which exists somewhat higher than his.
Art Flannagan noted the close proximity of the other houses and the desire-
ability of having privacy on this corner lot.
Margaret Leppik felt that overall it was a creative solution to a difficult
lot that was highly visible and heavy traffic. Mike Sell noted that on the
survey submitted with this proposal , it located the existing house slightly
off the required 35 feet from Florida Avenue (at 34.8 feet) and irrespective
of any other decision regarding the proposed decks, he suggested the Board
address this.
Larry Smith suggested a motion was in order. Art Flannagan moved to approve
the waiver for the decks as requested and to also include the house as it
now exists at 34.8 feet from Florida Avenue. Second by Mike Sell , and upon vote
carried unanimously.
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85-7-18 (Map 19) Residential
2425 Wisconsin Avenue North
Glen Gersbach
The Petition is for waiver of Section
3A.06(1) front setback, for 1.5 feet off the
required 35 feet to a distance of
33.5 feet to the existing house at
its closest point, to allow addition
af a fully conforming garage and
room.
The petition was in order. Consent had been obtained from all adjacent pro-
perties. Mr. and Mrs. Gersbach were present. No others were in attendance.
Mr. Gersback explained they recently became owners of the house and their
proposal is to add a room and garage addition that fully conforms. Wisconsin
Avenue curves sharply at this location and the front lot line is similar to a
lot on a cul-de-sac. The house at its closest point on this radius is 33.5
feet from the lot line.
Mike Sell noted that by his observation it appeared that when the house was
built, the foundation quite possibly was staked out from both ends to establish
the corners. At these points the house exceeds 37 feet because of the radius
and it appears that is how the error of being too close at the center of the
lot occurred. The Board concurred. It was also noted during discussion that
the house as presently placed on the lot appears to have been intended for
future addition of a garage and the curb cut that exists on the street fits the
proposed location.
Mike Sell moved to approve the waiver as requested. Second by Margaret Leppik
and upon vote carried.
85-7-19 (Map 15) Residential
1550 Pennsylvania Avenue North
Robert Feldges
The Petition is for waiver of Section
3A.06(1) front setback, for 20 feet off the required
35 foot front setback to a distance of
15 feet from the lot line along Olympia
to the proposed patio deck.
Mr. and Mrs. Feldges were present. Consent had been obtained from all
adjacent properties. No others were present.
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The Board noted this is also a corner lot located on Olympia at Pennsylvania
and very similar to the previous proposal at Florida and Olympia.
Mr. Feldges said after hearing the previous proposal he was somewhat confused as
his patio deck is ground level (paver type bricks set in sand) and his fence is
only six feet high. Lloyd Becker explained that while there was similarities to
the previous proposal at Florida and Olympia, there are also some dlffierences.
While the patio is a flat surface at ground level that is located 20 feet into
the setback area from Olympia, nothing in the residential section of the Zoning
Code actually says that the setback areas must be grass or landscape, nor does
it prohibit some other material at ground level that could be used as a patio
area.
However, staff felt that the fence around this patio area is actually an
an enclosure and the appearance of a structure within the 35 foot setback.
That is why it was brought to the Board of Zoning Appeals. Mahlon Swedberg
concurred. In his observation, it had the appearance of a structure not
a fence and properly should be addressed by the Board of Zoning Appeals.
Art Flannagan noted that on three sides of this lot, it is heavily screened by
substantial evergreens that provide privacy year round. The fence or enclosure
would be very difficult to see.
Mahlon Swedberg noted this is a corner lot with 35 foot setback on two sides and
the house is located well back into the corner of the lot. The proposed patio
as it relates to the door and kitchen area is the best location and makes sense.
The lot also has other limitations including a substantial hill on the north
side.
Art Flannagan moved to approve the waiver for the privacy fence as proposed,
noting the heavy screening the existing evergreens provide, the requirement for
a 35 foot setback on two sides, the topography to the north and the lack of any
other reasonable placement based on the present location and construction
characteristics of the existing home. Second by Margaret Leppik. During
additional discussion on the motion, Margaret Leppik noted the beautiful maple
trees that were also on the lot in conjunction with the everyreens. Upon vote,
the motion to approve carried unanimously.
85-7-20 (Map 18) Institutional
145 Jersey Avenue South
Church of the Good Shepherd
The Petition is for waiver of Section
11.07 side setback, for 25 feet off the required
25 feet of landscape along the portion of
the south lot line adjacent to the revised
plat.
The petition was in order. Notice had been sent to six properties adjacent to
or reasonably near this area. None were present. Father Theodore C. Campbell ,
Pastor of the Church of Good Shepherd, and Mr. Milton Bix, Attorney Representing
the Church, as legal council were present.
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Mr. Bix made a presentation which included an overview of the many years the
Church has existed in Golden Valley, that it has been a good neighbor to the
community and had recently made some substantial improvements in upgrading and
maintaining its structures.
Mr. Bix described that the new plat divides off a substantial portion to provide
sufficient area to meet the requirements for the purchaser, Speak the Word
Church. At the present time, they have approximately 600 people in their con-
gregation but they intend to build to meet their future needs of approximately
1 ,200 members. The Church, theefore, required sufficient space to meet the
current parking requirements. Mr. Bix described the property as having two
sides (Laurel and Jersey) that require the 35 foot setback. He also des-
cribed that the Church "gave" the 50 feet of property along the south side to
the City for the required right-of-way and green area for Laurel Avenue. Rather
than have the City go through condemnation, etc. , and purchase this area, the
Church cooperated with the City in this plat and they also included an area
to the City along Cortland Avenue to prevent traffic flow through that area.
Mr. Bix said he felt it would be an extreme hardship to rip up 25 feet of
blacktop and playground area, which really affected no one. Secretary, Lloyd
Becker, noted to the Board that the green area along Laurel Avenue was required
as 10 percent of the total lot area to be dedicated to the City or cash in lieu
of as part of a new plat.
Art Flannagan questioned, what is the hardship? It appears to him that the
proponent created the situation by dividing off the property and recognizing
that the new development would have to meet the landscape requirement but the
Good Shepherd Church should not do so.
Margaret Leppik questioned the present parking and the times of most use, i .e. ,
mass or at weddings, or large social church events. She questioned why that pre-
sent blacktop playground area with one basketball hoop couldn't be used for
parking when required and then there should be no reason that removal of the 25
feet of blacktop and installation of the required landscape couldn't be done.
Mr. Bix said the Church would remove the blacktop if they had to but there is
25 feet of trees and grass on the Speak the Word Church site plus all the
existing wooded area and it seemed unreasonable just to avoid setting a
precendent or to enforce the litecal provisions of the ordinance in this case.
He felt the Board should exercise flexibility in areas where there appeared
that granting a waiver such as this request would appear to harm no one. Art
Flannagan and others disagreed. Mahlon Swedberg said it appeared to him a
"cart before the horse" situation arguing in effect for the new proposed Church.
Margaret Leppik questioned why the proposed Church couldn't reduce its size and
parking requirements.
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Mike Sell said he saw several unusual aspects of this proposal . The property
is zoned institutional . The proposed church use appears to be less intense than
any other use possible in the Institutional Zoning and the present blacktop being
discussed has been there for years and to dig it up now doesn't make sense or
appear reasonable. Sell also noted that the area on the south dedicated to the
City was a far greater benefit for the use of all the other citizens for roadway
than any benefit that might be obtained by removal of the blacktop.
Sell , in summary, felt the 35 foot requirement on two sides, plus the loss of
the south end along Laurel Avenue creates a hardship for this site.
Larry Smith noted the difference where a deliberate violation may occur or
exist versus this situation where the Church is up front and open to the
Board and is trying to keep a commitment it made to the other Church. It is
unfortunate that in dividing the property it creates this hardship. Smith
said he could look favorably toward approving the waiver request and frankly to
ask to rip up 25 feet of existing blacktop is questionable in his mind.
The Board and the proponent continued a lengthy exchange of views and the
merits of the proposal and alternatives. Margaret Leppik said she disagrees
with Mr. Bix's assumption that the proposed waiver affects no one as she feels
the people on Cortland are directly affected, especially when any new con-
struction occurs.
Mahlon Swedberg, in a final comment said he could possibly agree to some extent
with Mr. Bix's rational . However, the most striking argument is that the
problem is created by the Good Shepherd Church in dividing the property and can
be avoided by simply removing the blacktop. Swedbery further stated that every
argument put forth by Good Shepherd Church, who was selling the property, was
toward the new Church (Speak the Word) and the new Church should argue their
own if applicable.
In closing, Mr. Bix said the Church will abide by any decision the Board makes.
They would like to use the storage garage for approximately 12 months before
they remove it because they need time to remodel another area for storage.
Mike Sell moved to approve the waiver as requested, noting the loss of land at
the south end, the existing soil conditions and the 35 foot requirement on two
sides. Second by Larry Smith.
During discussion on the motion, it was the concensus of the Board that removal
of the garage was a separate issue. Art Flannagan asked Mike Sell to amend his
motion. Sell withdrew his previous motion and Smith his second. Mike Sell
moved to allow a waiver that would provide for the garage to remain for 12
months from this date to provide the proponents time to construct alternate
storage area after which the garage shall be removed from the site or
demolished. Margaret Leppik seconded the motion and upon vote carried.
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Mike Sell reintroduced his previous motion to approve the waiver of 25 feet off
the required 25 feet of landscape as described on the site plan. Smith
seconded the motion.
During discussion on the motion, Margaret Leppik said she had great difficulty
with this proposal . Art Flannagan again expressed his concern for the precedent
approval would set and the appearance that waiving the removal of the 25 feet of
blacktop would have. Mahlon Swedberg commented he could not support the request
and it is ridiculous to give two minutes thought to this. Chairman Smith called
the vote on the motion for approval . There were 2 ayes for approval , 3 nays,
Leppik, Flannagan and Swedberg. The motion denied.
Mr. Bix and Father Campbell were made aware of the appeal process by the
Chairman.
Following Board discussion on other developments underway or proposed in the
City, the Board adjourned at 9:50 P.M.
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La y Smit , hairman 1 yd G. Becker, Secretary