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08-28-72 PC Minutes �5 I�INUTFS OF THE GOLDIId VALLEY PLANIJING OOA�IISSION August 28, 1972 A regular me� .ing of the Golden Valley Planning Commission was held at 7.30 P.M. on Monday, August 28, 1972 at the Civic Ce nter, 7800 Golden Valley Road, Golden Valley, Minnesota. Chairman Lundsgaard presided and the following members were present: Vice Chairman Franzen, Commissioners Anderson, Becker, Edstrom, Sampson, a�nd Swanson. Also present was Village Consul.tant Carl �le and Reeording Secretary Jon Westlake. Members absent: Commissioners Christiansen and Van Horn. l. APPI�OVAL OF MINUTES: N➢JVEA by Sampson, secondeii by Franzen, carried unanimously, �o approve the minutes of the August 11�, 1972 meeting as amended. 2. RESIDIIJTIAL PLAT (a) Lovering Addition Robert Lovering, owner - b525 Glenwood Avenue Three (3) Residential lots 1601 east of Hampshire Avenue south of Glenwood Avenue, and north of Western Avenue Mr. Gary Bickel, Chairman of the Enaironmental Commission, reviewed with the Planning Commission the July 17, 1972 and August 1lt, 1972 IIzvironmental Commission minutes regarding this request. The Planna.ng Commission then reviewed the following Flanning Considerations: "l. This matter has been considered by the Planning Commission at previous meetings. A previous proposal was to subdivide the land into four (1t) lots. It was noted at that time that much of the land in question has the appear- ance of being, if not in fact, a lake or pond. Various questions were raised at that time related primarily to water storage axeas, potential extension of Western Avenue, filling requirements, and current drainage needs. 2. Earlier, this area had been recommended for preservation as ��public open space"; denelopment at this time, however, seems to rule out the feasibility of '�public open space". Open space under private ownership, however, is still a strong possibility and a desirable community objective. The Village Engineer notes that ponding in this area will not be essential in the future �rhen storm sewers are installed; even so, it is suggested that natural open space, including water, is desirable to the living environment and that the pond/lake is of public cancern due to environmental eonsiderations. 3. The current subdivision request indicates utility and drainage easements (for por�d area) that were not required for lots to the west; this may result in some future problems. The lake is an existing land feature and the future need for storm water storage may be irrelevant to the actual public issue. The public issue is one of the fact that a lake or pond now exists and some property o�ers may h�ve differing opinions as to: �� Planning Commissian August 28, 1972 page 2 a) If water should remain. b) Water level and silting problems. c) Private responsibilities for maintenance vs public respon�ibilities. d) The need for public control and access for maintenance. 1�. Regardless of engineering needs for storm water disposal, it is suggested that a pond and wildlife area should be preserved. 5. In the absence of any home owner�s association or other form of cooperative private agreement, it should be noted �hat the public interest cannot be, preserved without formal participation on the part of government. 6. Utility and drainage easements are proposed for the current subdivision; it has been recommended that similar agreements be reached with the six lots facing Hampshire Ave. N. to the west of the property in question. Without . such agreements, serious problems of lake management can arise due to disa- greements between property owners as to the mai.ntenance and repair of lake conditions. 7. With these comments, the current proposal seems reasonable provided any lake filling is done under strict supervision of Village staff to preserve the integrity af the pond area.f' The Planning Commission noted the proposal is for th�ee (3) large residential lots which exceed the Village platting requirements. The proposed plat also contains a utility and drainage easement to preserve the pond area. It was also pointed out the proposed plat will provide !�0 feet of right of way on the north for street purposes. Rev. Lovering was present and asked if �he easement for ponding, as indicated on the RTorthwest corner of I,ot 1 on the proposed plat, could be located £urther to the west. , It was moved by Franzen, seconded by Swanson, caxried unanimously, to recommend approval of the plat of Lovering Addition, noting that if Mr. Lovering would like to relocate the pond easement line in the Northwest corner of Lot 1, it would require review and approval by the �ngineering �epartment. The Planning Commission also discussed Item #6 of the Planning Considerations regarding similar tztility and drainage easements which are not on the plat of Janelle Addition. It was moved by Anderson, seconded by Franzen, carried unanimausly, to request the Engineering Department �o recommend a location for the utility and drainage easement of Janelle Addition and also to request that further research be made by the staff a5 to �eans of acquiring this easement to preserve the ponding �rea. (b) G. V. '��omson, owner - l��y00 Golden Va11ey Road Mrs. Kruger Libbey, �avid C. Bell Company, developer Six (6} Residential lots north of Ciolden Valley Road Mr. Carl Dale, Village Consultant, reviewed the following Planning Considerations: 8? Planning Commission August 28, 1972 pa�� 3 �'1. A proposed subdivision plan for this site had been submitted and �onsidered earlier but objected to because of the large lot sizes proposed and the lack of a plan showing how these lots could be re-subdivided later into a logical pattern if the desire arises; such a pl.an has now been submitted. 2. Perhaps the only matter now of prime concern has to do with enforcement of the desired cor,ditions; while proposed (in current Village Plan Reports) subdivision and zoning regulations provide for such situations, existing regulations in force do not. The suggested conditions are as follows; a) The subdivision should be planned such that the large lots can be re-subdivided later into additional and more standard lot sizes in an efficient and logical mann�r; and b} Adequate safeguards be provided for the maintenance of Bassetts Creek in this area. 3. �he potential re-subdivision plan seems reasonable but public enforc�nent authorization and procedures seem inadequate pending adoption of new and up-dated orda.nances. It is suggested, however, that certain other steps can be taken, at least as an interim measure: a) Approve the plat subject to certain administrative provisions recommended to the Village Council plus a required maintenance and access easement for the proper preservation of Bassetts Creek. While State Law covers Creek protection to some extent, it is suggested here that this is not sufficient in a practical sense - local control is necessary. �Local control of� Bassetts Creek should be obtained wherever possible since State and other controls are considered inadequate.) b) The potenti.al re-subdivision p].an can be enforced by recommending to the Village Council that the future re-subdivision plan be placed on file and that all buildi.ng permits be issued oril.y after an adminstrative decision that the building locations are in conformity to the existing and potential subdivision plan. (A more forma7. procedure would be to adopt an "Official Map" but this is considered premature at this time for reasons of total community planning.) c) A suitable easement should be required along Bassetts Creek to assure proper Creek and fZood plain ma�ntenance. While such easemer.ts have not been required along much of the creek in past, it is not too late to begin such a program. While certain. state laws do apply, these are not considered as adequate to meet all public needs and concerns." Mrs. Kruger Libbey was present to answer questions regaxding the plat. In discussing the proposed plat the Planning Commission noted the plat contains six (6} large lots which exceed the present requirements of the Platting Ordinance. Commissioner Sampson questioned. the long t'pan handle" on �ot 1 of the proposed plat. The Commission also noted there is a ponding area on th� North �nd of the proposed Lot 5 adjacent to Bassetts Creek which would require special consideration if the lot was re-subdivided later, as indicated by the proposect future smaller lot guide plat. 88 Planning Commission August 28, 1972 page � It was moved by Swanson, seconded by Franzen, carried to recornmend approval of the proposed plat, subject to #3 a, b, and c of the Planning requirem�.nts arzd review by the Bassetts Creek Flood Control Commission. The motion carried with 5 yea and 1 nay. 3. PUBLZC INFORMATI�NAL MEETING - GENERAL PLAN (�.U.D. #8) Shelter �evelopment Corporation - �over Hill 23b Housixig Proposal containing 112 family un�.ts and 122 elderly units Location: Soutr of Medicine Lake Road, West of Mpls. Northfield & Southern �ailroad, and 600t East of Winnetka Avenue Messrs. Peter Boosalis and Bud Egge of Sh�I.ter Corporation, Peter Jarvin and Jerome Benshof of Bather Ringrose Wolsfeld, Orlyn Miller of Nasor,, Wehrman, Chapman Associates, Lonnie Oxton of Winsor Faricy Architacts, and Gordy Fdberg of Graven �9imond Associates, Inc., individuals representing Shelter �evelopment Corporation, informed the Planning Commission of a proposal for housing under the Federal 236 program. Their application is for general plan approval under the Planned Unit Development Ordinance. In presenting their request to the Commission, it was pointed out the area is located on a 13.6 acre site south of Medicine La�e Road, east of Rhode Island Avenue, and west of the Mpls. Northfield & 5outhern Railroad. It was explai.ned how the surrounding zoni.ng and land use would function with this proposal. The proposed site will contain a seven story building containing 122 one-bedroom units (approximately 600 square feet per unit) for those 62 years of age or older with eight units for the handicapped. The proposed �terior material is stucco with bronze glass and balcanies of rough cedar. The interior wi11 include area for beauty and barber shop, game room, small library, laundry� and crafts. There are 112 Family units for low or moderate income. These fami�.y units will be two and three story buildings designed in two 56 unit "U" shaped complexes. These family units �ri.11 be a townhouse variety will all two and three bedroom units having ground f'l.00r access. The !t8 one-bedroom units wi,ll be on the third floor. There will be !�8 two-bedroom �inits and 16 three-bedroom units, maki.ng a total of 112 units. A cammunity building is provided far the family units with gaest parking. Also, there are two tot lots, one of which has been enlarged. Shelter Cnrporation further explained they will provide one (1) parking space for each two units on the si�e. There is sufficient land i.n green area which can be used for more parking if needed. The garages are not in accordance with the Village Ordinance, waivers will have to be applied for. They are providing gaxages for the family units as follaws: 1 garage for each one and two bedrooms and 1 1/2 garages for each three bedrooms. Sn explaining the landscaping plat�, they stated they are providing an extensive landscaping program, including 3 1/2" to !�" trees. A berm will be created along the side adjacent to the Railraad, which will include a fence for safety. Also, certain areas will be left in a natural state. The site will contain a number of sidewal.ks, and also propossd are sidewalks along Medici.ne Lak� 8oad and Rhode Island Avenue. The site coverage is 3�t�, which includes all buildings, driveways, and parking areas-leavi.ng an open space of 66�. The proposal is for 17.2 units per aere. �9 Planning Commission August 28, 1972 page 5 The proponent, also reviewed a traffic report whieh had been mailed to the Planning Commission members previously. Shelt�r Corporation also reviewed the follvwing statistics with the Planning Commission: The maximum amount of rent that can be charged in Hennepin County under the 236 program is: $132 per month for one bedroom 1 or 2 people $163 per month for two bedroom 3 or !� people $18s per month for three bedroom S or 6 people The above figures include all utilities and garages. The income range is as follows: 1 bedroom vnit $l�,�00 to $6,300 two i.ndividuals 2 bedroom unit $5,60� to $7,$� family of 3 or 1� 3 bedroom unit $5,300 to $8,800 family of 5 or 6 The projected population of the development could break down as follows: Seven story elderly (122 units) 80� single = 98 adults 20� couples= total 1.lt6 elderly and handieapped Two and three story family units (112 units) Lt8 one bedroom = 73 adults, 5 children 1�8 two bedxoom . = 88 adults, 60 children 16 three bedroom= 32 adults, !t!� children 193 adults,109 children Total population of t�l�8 people. Land Cost and Taxes Land cost is $230,000, broken dot�n i.nto three different examples: Ind�ustrial building $15 per squaxe foot. 200,000 square feet. Total land and building $3,23�,000 Base tax $12�,000 - 40� fiscal disparities pool would eq,ual $72,00� + � back on fiscal disparities. Single Family Home Value of $35,�0 (1t0 homes �Total $1,l�00,000 Base tax $lt�,l�8lt ($250 sales tax credit each unit) equals �35,48l� taxes Shelter proposal - Building $3,500,000, Total land and building $3,730,000 Full and true value of $1,2Lt2,090 assessed on a subsidy at 20� = a base tax of $69,5l�0. �� Planning Commission Augnst 2fi, 1972 page 6 The Planning Commission discussed several of the points as presented by the proponent. The more specific questions were in regard to the elderly housing, size of units, traffic, access to and from the site, density, quality� of construction of units, concern about stucco for exterior material (proponent stated they could go brick or other material), security, air conditioning, and garages for the senior citizens. Gary Bickel, Chairman of the Environmental Commission, reviewed the August 1lt, 1972 Environmental Commission minutes. Mr. Walter Barninski, a member of the New Hope Plaa�ni.ng Commission, stated they a re not opposed nor in favor of the request; but they are concerned about t�affic and multiple development in their community to the north of this site if this proposal is approved. Mr. Wayne Cox, a member of the staff of the Metropolitan Council, read a letter addressed to Peter Boosalis from Albert J. Hofstede encouraging Shelter Developrnent Corporation to proceed with the proposal. Mrs. Phyllis Jordahl, representing the Senior Citizens, stated this type of housing is needed for the elderly. Mrs. Rivel Greenberg, Chairman of the housing Committee for the League of Women Voters, stated they supported this project. Mr. Joseph Burgess, Presiden� of the Senior Citizens, stated they are in favor of the project, but they would like attached garages for the senior citizens building. He said they were also concerned about the security system and how the project will be taken care of if Shelter Corporation sold it. The following residents voiced their concern as follows: Mr. John Hagen of 2145 Kelly 33rive was cQncerned about traffic. He also presented the Chairman with a petition containing approximately 70 signatures opposed to the proposal. Mr. 0'Neil of 21l�0 Pennsylvania Ave. N. questioned site location, taxes, schools, and statistics given by Shelter Corpora�ion. N[r. Stone of 2020 Pennsylvania Ave. N. was concerned about traffic, schools, taxes, and condition of structure five or ten years from now. Mr. Johnson was opposed to a seven story building. Mr�� Wilson of 2220 Pennsylaania Ave. N. was concerned with traffic and how property will be cared for. The Planning Considerations by the Village Consultant are as follows: r'1. The proposed PUD use (residential) would not be in conformity ta the existing Vill.age PIan as reflected in the Zoning Ordinance nor the currently proposed Comprehensive Municipal Plan. All current Village plans indicate the proposed PUD :�i�� to be most suited to i.ndustrial use. 2. I� is suggested that the basic question is one of proper land us� and that questions relating to specific site develo.pment plans, social issues of housing need, the merits of subsidized housing, aesthetics of a high-rise structure, traffic, and others are secondary to the primary issue. The first question to be asked and answered is - ��Should the Vil].age Plan be amended to elimi- nate the industrial classification for the site and, if so, what is the most appropriate use of the land?" If residential is selected as being the most appropriate use, this should be in consideration of general living amenities 91 Planning Commission August 28, 1972 page 7 and not just the more narrow view of elderly, low income family, handica,pped� and Federally subsidized housi.ng. It must be �onsidered that the criteria for a good Iiving environment does not change i.n selecting residential sites for differ�nt income, age, racial, social, or other groups. There are ex��p- ������� �however, such as certain sites being highly suited for elderly hou�ing (such as a �owntown location) but not so desirable for families with children. 3• There are no readily apparent reasons to suggest that the existing industrial classification is improper. Residential Classification would, howeaer, seem highly questionable for the following reasons: a) The site is almost totally isolated from normal Community, neighborhood public facilities and residential. services (parks, playgrounds, scl�ools, etc.; b) The site would not be part of any established or potential future resi- dential ''neighborhood". (In this respect, the fact that the proposal is for low-income housing may have a bearing; the possibility and ramifications of establishing a low-income �'ghetto" should not be ig�ored. In fact, eurrent planning concepts seem to call for blending low-income housing into the�fabric to the entire community rather than creating ��projects" as identified by the public image created.} c) The site is greatly aff�cted by adjacent land use (major street, com- m�rcial, railroad, i.ndustrial, pond area) which combine to create a most difficult environmental situation for living ��nities. Onl.y to the south is some relief offered by vacant and pond areas. d) It seems highly unlikely that a developer/investor would select this site for higher income housing due to the environmental factors. Even so, the Village must decide if this is suitable residential land. !t, The Environmental Commission has ruled that - ". . .the proposed development as p��v�:ded in the general plan in relationship to the environmental aspects contained therein..." is acceptable. A motion to support the PUD development for the social and environmental "benefits�' to be gained by the Cotnmunity failed. 5• Under existing conditions, it is suggested that it is the responsibility of the developer to demonstrate to the Planning Commission and Village Council that the proposed PUD is equal to or better than the indicated land use (industrial) on the Comprehensive Village Plan. Public money has been spent in recent months and years to arrive at an industrial classification and it would seem ill-advised to expend public funds and effort to accomodate the desires of one developer. 6. Regardless of the estimates of future resident school children at the site, alI of these wou]..d be ehildren not present if industrial deve].opment is to be the ultimate use. In any event, the school district should be consulted with respect to affect ugon school capacities and, more important� their opinion of the pedestrian and transportation aspects of school children at this site. 7. Pedestrian movements into and out of this area would seem most difficult ar�d hazardous if not impossible. If the project is to be approved, it is suggested that "neighborhood�� pedestrian circulation needs be studied to determine if the proposed sidewalk plan is adequa�e. �� Planning Commi.ssion August 28, 1972 page 8 8. Landscape plans indicate recreational. facilities to include a "community buildingt� ar�d two (2) lots; due to the isolated nature of the site, this may not be adequate. Active play area for other age groe�ps seems advisable. This should be examined by appropria�� Village departments. 9. The current request is for general plan approval and this is a one-step process including concept approval. For this reason, the developers have submitted rather lengthy and detailed plans. ':his planning re,port, however, questions the basic concept (land use) for the specific si.te. It shotiild be nated that this project will be reviewed by the Metropolitan Council staff and others due to Federal subsidies involved; the site may be ogen for highly critical. scrutiny by these agencies and it may be well. to consider snch opinions at this time. 10. In the event that the Village proceeds to approve this project with some speed, two phases of planning analysis have been developed which would nat normally be done under preliminary concept review. First, the details of the site plan have been reviewed in some depth and secondly, a rough draft PUD permit has been prepared for your review. Site Plan a) The site plan, in �eneral, seems quite satisfactory. It is evident that considerablp thought and effort has gone into this plan� b) MeQtin�s h�ve been held with V;.11age staf�' and nesded revisions such as additional fire lanes c�,n be made with relative ease. c) The adsquacy af recreation areas is questionable. d) Access to and from the developznent aroa by pedestrians seems inadeq'aate. e) Vil�age parking requirements have �at been met in total; the number of spaces provided (open and enclosed} for the high-rise structure does not r�e�t Village standards. Village standards however do not reasonably apply to ho`zsing for the elderl;�. Recent surveys conducted at similar housing projec�s indicate that the 68 parking spaces to accomodate 122 alderly housing units is more than adequate. It is our estimate that abou� forty (1�0) parking spacc�s would be quite �dequate. For this reason, it is suggested that the potential "future parking�' area i.nd3cated on the plans is superflunus and might be better suited for a playground or other recreation area. f) Dwelling unit density and site coverage in re�ationstu.� to open space see:ns quite adequate for �he type c�f project en��ision�d. g) While the idea o� leaving the open mar�� in a natural state is a good fea�ure of the plan, it m+ast again be nated that such areas must be "managed and maintained" and that Village supervision of such management and maintenance should be pro�vided with expert advise» (See previons recommendation to esta�alish position of Village Forester or Park Keeper.) 11.. This report does not question the nsed for more diversified housing in Golden Valley nor does it quarrel with the need far housing the elderly and �andicapped. It does questi.on the desirability of the specific site propnsed for housing of a.� type. G�uestions of traffic, tax base, natural feat�ares to be preserved, and the like seem rather secondary to the basic concept of what constitutes a desirable living environment. �� Planning Comm�ssion August 28, 1972 page 9 12. The fear that public criticism may result from critical scrutiny of this pr�posed project should not over-shadow and place undue burdens upon the decision making process. It is suggested that the most fair and objective way to evaluate this proposed project is to consider only the classifi- cation of land use proposed and not the income or other specialized types of needs for those proposed to be housed. A more positive public policy woul.d be to evaluate housing proposals as a "land use"and that a11 persons should be treated equally in the selection of suitable living environments. A still more positive role eould be played by government by participating in the process of determining specific and specialized housing needs and aiding private and public developers to find suitable sites to meat the apparent needs. 13. S� It is recommende�d that the developer be asked to demonstrate first the feasibility and desirability of the proposed land us� change in terms of sound public land use policy as well as from a private investment viewpoint. Should the Planning Commission be convinced that a cha,nge from industrial to residential is in the public interest, the next step would be to fully evaluate the ,proposed building and site plans and to consider conditions which should be incorporated i.nto the PUD Permit (rough draft submitted herewith) . It was moved by Sampson, seconded by Anderson, to recommend appro�ral of Planned Unit Development #8, su3ject to: 1. development of an adequate traffic plan to minimize problems on Medicine Lake Road and surrounding streets, 2. development of a plan to insure adequate staffing for the project including security and maint�nance, 3. building plans to be reviewed by the Building Board of Review, !t. requirements of the P.U.D. Permit #8, 5. review by the Golden Valley Trail Commi.ttee, 6. review by the Board of Zoning Appeals, 7, meeting the requirements of the Public Safety Depaxtment and Fire �epartment, 8. construction of a comgrehensive sidewalk plan within 1/2 mile radius of the project. Upon vote being taken by roll call, the following members voted in favor of the motion: Anderson, Becker, Edstrom, and Sampson. The following voted against the same: Franzen and Swanson. The motion carxied. Commissioners Franzen and Swanson stated they were opposed ior the following reasons: traffic, density, other locations might be found which are more suitable, limited to recreational areas, and also the concern the Village of New Hope expressed. �� Planning Commission August 28, 1972 page 10 Commissianer Christiansen sent a letter to the Chairman of the Planning Commission because he could no+ attend th�s meeting. It was moved by Franzen, seconded b� S��anson, carried unanimously, to include the lett�r in the minutes as follows: '�Since I wi11 be out of town on vacation and will not be able to attend the Planning Commission meeting on August 28, 1972, I would like to express my thoughts re�arding the planned Federal 23b Housing Project at Medicine Lake Road, west of Winnetka Avenue. This project, on this t,ract �f land, is certainly not suited for low cost housing at this particular location and the P�,anning Commission has recognized for many years that this plot of land i5 more suited for industrial use. The araa is certainly not conducive from an asthetic point of view in this particular area. Tt would certainly cause a traffic problem in an already congested area. Thera are no parks or recreation faci�ities available to make it more desiral�le for the low inc�me families wi.th children. According to the information we have received ta date, the amount which wi11 be charged is certainly not for low income families; we have some apartments situated around Golden Valley which are renting fbr less than what they are asking. I further believe that if Golden Valley does feel. that this type of a project is needed, it should be located in an area west of the Civic Center near our Golden Valley Industrial Paric, adjaeent to Bassett Creek. This would be more accessible to medical facilities, near the Golden Valley Shoppin� Center. The Golden Valley Shopping Center would be more accessible for any other necessities for their living needs. They would have access to the new library, near the Civie Cent�er and they would also be near the Brookview Golf Course so that they could walk to the golf facility for recreation. In addition, an adequate play- graund facility could be provided near Bassstt Creek, creating a better surrounding for children which would be liv�:ng in this complex. In closing, Mr. Carl �ale, Planning Consultant, has also raised some very serious doubts and a number of points that we as Planning Commission members should consider regarding this project.�� ' �t. WAIVER OF THE PLATTING ORDINAIJCE (a) Earl E. �ilson (5 Residential Lots) 1600, 160l�, 1608, 1612, and 1616 C.�aunty ftoad 1$ The request is to build on five (5) residential lo�s as they are presently platted; but because of the Merger of Title Ordinance, the proponent is appearing before the Planning Commission. The lots are 9, 10, 11, 1.2 and 13 Block 13 Lakeview Heights. The Planning Commission noted that the proponent is not upgrading the lot but a majority of the lots in this block are platted with a 60-foot frontage. 95 Planning Commission August 28, 1972 page 11 It was moved by Franzen, seconded by Swanson, carried unanimously, to recommend approval of the five lots as platted, subject to a drainage plan approved by the Village Engineer and other requirements of the Engineering �epartment. (b) Alvin G. Stobbe (2 Residential Lots) 155 and 201 Paisley Lane This property was divided by Hennepin County in 196l� but had never received approva,I Prom the Village Co3.incil. Even though the lots axe shaped in a triangle form, they meet the requirements of the platting ordinance. It was moved bp Swanson, seconded by Edstrom, carried unanimously, to approve the waiver of the Platting Ordinance, subject to an easement as required by the Engineering �3epartment. (c) Cleo J. Kennedy (2 Residential Lots) 1535 and 1551 June Avenue South The proponent is proposing to divide Tract H of Tyrol Hills Addition into two lots. I� was moved by Anderson, seconded by Swanson, carried unanimously, to approve the waiver of the Platting Ordinance, noting both lots exceed the requirements of the platting ordinance. 5. MIT&JEST FLANNING AND ftES�ARCH, TNC. - OOMPREfiIIdSIVE FLAM Mr. Larry Giesler of Midwest Planning and Research, Inc. discussed two areas of the Plan with the Planning Commission. The first area is the transportation plan of Precinct #5. The Planning Commission, after discussing the transportation plan in Precinct #5, decided that until an indica�ion is given on the 391t proposal the Commission would show Western Avenue as a loeal strest and inc2ieate Pennsylvania Ave. from Laurel to Wayzata Boulevard as a collector street. The second area I�r. Giesler discussed with the Commission was the Village Square- as to setting up special standards or inelude the Village Square in the new Zoning Code. After further discussion, it was decided to include this in the new Zoning Cc�de and special standaxds could be set up in the future if so desired. There being no further business to come before the meeting, it was on motion, duly seconded, adjourned at 1:1�0 A.M. Chairman Waxren Lundsgaard Secretary I,owe�l Swanson P� PLANNIRTG (70IWII�TSSIQN MEETING SEPTII�BER 11, 1972