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MINUTES OF THE GOLDIId VAI,LEY
PLABiNING CON�'LCS5IOId
May 13, 1971�
A regular meeting of the Golden Valley Planning Commission was held at
?:30 P.M. on Monday� May 13� I974 at the Civic Center� 7800 Golden Valley Road�
Golden Yalley� Minnesota.
Chairman John Sampson presided and the following members were present:
Commissioners Christiansen, Fdstrom, Hakala, Herje, Iiughes, Leonard, Lundsgaard,
and Sehlin. Jon Westlake, staff inember, was also present.
Members absent: None.
l. APPROV.AL OF MINUTFS: P40VED by Hakala, seconded by Sehlin, carried
unanimously, to approve the minutes of the April 22, 197lt Planning Commission
meeti.ng as amended as follows: Page !�, Item #7 add to the last sentence after
serve as alternates. Al.so, Page 5, Item #8 first paragraph, second to last
sentence change HUD to H,R.A.
2. PUBLI C INFORMATIONAL MEETIPIG - P`lanned Unit Development
P.U.D. �1.3 General Plans - King�s Valley
Applicant: Cheyenne Land Company
Locations East of County Road 18 and North of Duluth Street
Proposal: 15l� Family Homes with Zero Lot Lines
Mr. Jon Westlake reviewed the following Planning Considerations:
"1. A revised and very complete PUD plan has been submitted for review;
this is the third revision to make a total of four (�) plans which have
been submitted. See Planning Commission minutes dated January 1lt, 1971�
and April 8, I97l� for background.
2. The site located north of Duluth Street and east of County Road 18 is
on 29•32 acr�s, which includes the T)uluth Street Right of Way which is
1.32 acres. The original plan was to develop 172 units at a density of
5•9 units per gross acre; the current plan calls for lsl� homes resulti.ng
in a gross density of 5.25 units/acre or a net density of 5•53 (net meaning
bui.ldable land excluding _Du].uth Street). This latest reduction in dwelling
units was necessitated primarily by providing added open space along the
eastern border of the project development.
3. Significant new and/or revised plan features are as follows:
a) Very complete and detailed plans have been submitt�i as per PUD
zoning requirements.
b) The average width of the east side open green area naw ranges between
128 ft. to 188.7 ft. The closest patio home to the east property
line is 128 feet. We consider this varying width situation a very
good ��buffert� design and more desirable than a rigid "straight line"
requirement.
c) The number of tennis courts has been increased from two to three.
d� Storm water ponding area configura'�ion has been changed somewhat and
has been reviewed by the City Engineer.
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e) The street plan has been changed to eliminate the cul de sac near the
tennis courts and replace it with a loop in conjunction with relacating
the storm drainageway completely to the east of all patio homes and
increasing the distance between the patio homes and single-family
homes to the east of the project.
?�. The housing mix� landscape plan, privacy fence and pedestrian bridge
details, land coverage, and other plan features submitted and reviewed
seem quite satisfactory and, in our opinion, should result in quality
additions to the neighborhood and community environment.
5• Subject to other staff comments and suggestions, we recommend approval
of the project and further subject to the drafting,of a complete and
detailed PUD Permit. Some suggested conditions for inclusion are as
follows:
a) All applicable general. and specific conditions contained in prior
permits issued for similar projects in Golden Valley.
b) Approval of the Home Owners Association structure with specific
reference to payment capability for potential future public improve-
ment assessments.
c) Proper conditions for trash storage and removal, :snow removal, signs,
and the like.
d) Additional screen planting to be added later (following construction)
along the east border if this proves needed and desirable.
e) All conditions as recommended by the City Engineer relating to
uti].ity easements, storm water drainage and ponding, curb and gutter,
and the like.
f) Dedication of Right of Way for the potential future extension of
1)uluth Street.
g) E�nergency access conditions as recommended by the Fire and Pc�lice
I3epartments.
h) Provisions for control of guest parking and parking in the vicinity
of the swimming pool.
i) Conditions relating to the public trail and open space preservation
and maintenance.
j) ftequirement of cash in-lieu-of land dedication for public recreation
space or related uses.
k) Others as may be recommended and approved.��
Messrs. James Hawks, Ralph Carlson, and ftay Carlson of Centurion Company,
Richard Knutson of McCoombs Knutson, and George Scheuernstual of Barton
Aschman Associates, Inc. were present for the request.
Mr. Hawks explained how they have tried to consider the suggestions of ��ther
Committees they had appeared before with the present plan. Approximately 70�
of the land will be open space, which excludes blacktop area a1so. He then
explained the utiZity plan including streets, landscaping, ponding, amenities
to remain on the site, area to be deeded to the City, including an area that
will support three tezinis courts and the City trail system on the eastern
edge. Nir. Hawks further pointed out how they have created sub neighborhoods
by developing loop street patterns with a design to keep the pedestrian traffic
away from the vehicle traffic. The goal of this development is to provide the
ma�c.i.mum house at the lowest cost and still provide a good re-sale value for
the purchaser. Mr. Hawks then reviewed the types of units they are proposing
as follows:
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TYPE # OF tJNITS BASE[�NTS BEDROOMS
A l0 3
A-1 20 2+
$ , 5� 5� 3
B-1 l0 l0 3
B-2 !� ' !� 2+
C 16 1
C-1 40 2+
The development will include a heated swimming pool and ornamental street
lighting. Each unit will have a double attached garage, two guest parking
spaces, one patio (most with two patios)� underground utilities, central air
conditioning, dead bolt door locks, tile foyer, oak decorator kitchen cabinets,
and eeramic tile tub area, including cast iron porcelain tub, greenfield wiring, etc.
Mr. Ralph Carlson then explained the perma lease program and also that units
may be purchased outright. The lowest priced unit will sell for $26,900 with
perma lease or $33,�0 outright. The units will range up to approxi.mately
$65,000. Mr. Carlson then explained, for example, a 10% down payment and
what a prospective 6uyer�s cost would be.
Comments from interested persons in attendance were as follows: Mr. Robert
Brose, a member of the Environmental Commission, asked if the Planning
Commission was aware of the Environmental Commission�s minutes regarding
King�s Valley. Chairman Sampson read the Environmental Commission minutes,
which the Planning Commission had copies of, Mr. Hanson, 9050 Elgin Place,
stated the plan as presented is a much improved plan. Mr. I,arson, 9036 II.gin
Place, asked the difference between the design of these units and the proposal
at prior meetings. The Chairman of the Planning Commission asked the �i.rector
of Park and Recreation, who was present, about the tennis courts and tr ail system.
The predocni.nant points of concern discussed by the Planning Commission were�
landscaping plan, amenities to remain on the site, individual landscaping
around each unit (some of which the proponent indicated will be left to the
owner's discretion). The Planning Commission also discussed the traffic
report with Mr. Scheuernstual, Traffic Consultant.
The Planning Commission then referred to their housing policy and discussed
it in relation to this proposal.
It was then moved by Sehlin, seconded by Leonard to remove four (tt) units
from the southeast corner which would allow a total of 150 units on the site,
and also subject to the following recommendations:
l. All items in Item #5 of the Planning Considerations of this request.
2. The policy of the Planning Commission regarding housi.ng, which is paxt
of the November 26, 1973 Planning Commission minutes dealing with percent-
age of units within a cost range and cost of units.
3. Approval of the Building Board of Review.
1�. Planni.ng Commission is concerned about the total cost to the prospective
buyer of the perma lease program and encouraged the City Council to
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investigate this thoroughly and that as a minimum, a consumer summa.ry
sheet be prepared giving pertinent financial data that wi11 be distributed
to each prospective buyer.
5• Place in the home owner's association that when a unit is compl.eted and
sold, that within two (2) years the buyer shall add plantings in the area
that has been left for the buyer�s discretion adjacent to the uni.t.
It was then move�d by Christiansen, seconded by Herje, to amend the original
motion and allow 151s uni�ts as proposed by the proponent. Upon roll call vote
being taken on the amendment to the original motion, the following voted in
favor thereof: Edstrom, Herje, Christiansen, Hughes, and Lundsgaard. The
following vated against the sames Leonard, Hakala, and Sehlin. The motion
carried.
Upon vote being taken on the amended motion, the following voted in favor
thereof; Edstrom, Herje, Christiansen, Hughes, Leonard, and Lundsgaard. The
following voted against the same: Hakala and Sehlin. The motion carried.
3. PRELIMIIdARY REPORT ON GLF�OD HILI�S AftEA STUDY
Copies of the Consultant�s report regarding the Glenwood Hills Area Study were ;
distributed to the members of the Advisory Committee that were present. Also,
a report was given to the Glenwood Hills Neighborhood Association. Chairman
Sampson then reviewed the time table for completion of this study as follows:
The Planning Commission requests that the Advisory Committee convene by
themselves within the next two weeks and make any comments they may have with
respect to the preliminary report and forward them to Mr. Westlake who will
forward the comments to the Consu2.tant. Those individuals representing
Commissions on the Advisory Committee may want to circulate their repdrt among
their Commissions, keeping in mind the two week time period, so the Consultant
can have the final draft completed by the June 10, 1971� Planning Commission
meeting-at which time the Planning Comrnission will. receive the final draft and
distribute it to the Advisory Committee so that a report can be finalized at
the the June 21�, 1971� Planning Commission meeting. A final draft will also
be given to the Glenwood Hills Neighborhood Association. If they so desire,
they may respond to the report. The Planning Commission will be looking for
that input on June 21t, 197l�, also.
These reports, along with the Consultantts report, will be forwarded to the
City Council for their July 1, 197l� tneeting which is the date indicated they
would like to receive the report.
Mr. John Ber�ly, Consultant for Nason Wehrman Cha�man Associates, Inc., was
present to review the preliminary report with the Planning Commission. The
Planning Commission in discussing the report referred to the present thorough-
fare plan in relation to Golden Valley Road and also some changed street
patterns in the Qenwood Hills area. The Commission also discussed what areas
of the Hospital property will be utilized for structures, agencies involved
in approving Aospital plans other than the Citq of Golden Va11ey, and the
Planning Commission also asked the Consultant to suggest an area for a trail
on the hospital grounds.
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{Chairman John Sampson left the meeting at 10:15 P.M. and Vice Chairman
Ronald Edstrom presided.)
lt. WAIVER OF THE PLATTING ORDINANCE
West Suburban Builders, Inc. (2 Residential lots)
25lt0-2550 Dr esden Lane
This request was before the Village Council in connection with a street
vacation on May 4, 1970. Part of this request at that time was to �acate
26th Avenue North (which has been done) and construct a cul de sac at the
north end of Dresden Lane (which also has been completed); however, the . T
proposed lot division was not completed at that time. The Planning Commission
also asked the staff to mail notices regaxding this lot division and to check
with the property owner to the east (Sky2ine Bui.lders-P.B. Olson Property�)
to determine whether they had any plans for their property. Skyline Builders
indicated that at this time they had no plans. The request is to divide a
parcel of land 180 feet in width into two(2) lots 90 feet wide. Mr. Earl
Wilson, property owner, was present to answer questions.
It was moved by Herje, seconded by Lundsgaard, carried unanimously, that the
P1�nning Commission reca�nend approval of the waiver of the Flatting Ordinance�
pointing out the followings "
1. Call attention to the May 6, 19?!� City Council minutes in which
Rice Lake was discused. Other areas were discussed in the nicinity
for parks-one of which was the P. B. Olson property. The City
Council may want an easement for access to the P, B. Olson property
an the property that is being requested for a lot division.
2. If the waiver is approved, it is recommed that the house on
the South parcel be placed �5 feet back because of the cul de sac
and recommend a front yard setback waiver be granted for the northerly
pareel.
3." Requirements of the City �igine8ring Department (see May !�, 197�
Cc�uncil minutes�.
�. �lISCUSSION - OPEI3 SPACE REP'ORT (OPII� SPACE CONlMITTEE) �
Mrs. Syrille Ellison, repr�€��nt,ing the Open Space Committee, distributed an
addendum and map to the Planning Commission which is to be attached to the
Open Space Committee rep��. The map is not a comprehensive map of open
spaee in Golden Valley, but rather an illustration of the report. It should
be noted there are errors in the map, such as �ul.uth Street, and there is a
natural area on the General Mills office buildi.ng property that is not indicated..
The Planning Commission in reviewing the charge of the Open 5pace Committee
nated they are to submit their report to the Planning Commission, wh.ich has
been done. The Planning Commision will now review th� Open Space Committee
report and submi.t their comments, along with the Open, �
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Space Committee report,to the Ci.ty Council. The Planning Commission will
discuss the report submitted by the Open Space Committee at their June 10, 197�t -
p?�anning Coma������ ���t�g.
It was moved by Hughes, seconded by Herje� carried unanimously that the planni.ng
Commission request the Chairman to send a letter to all members of the Open
Spaca Cammittee thanking them for the work they have done on the report.
Th� Planning Commission then discussed the function of the Committee now that
they have completed. their charge� noting they were formulated through the
request of the City Council.
It was moved by Herje, seconded by Sehlin, carried unanimously, that the
Planning Commission wishes to express their thanks to the Open 5pace Committee
for the endless hours they have spent to formul.ate their report. Now that
the report is complete, it is felt the Open 5pace Committee can best serv�
the City of Golden Valley through the Park and Recreation Commission rather
than the planning Commision. " "
6. PROPOSED ORDINANCE REVISING PLAT DEDICATION REt�UI�II�l�TTS
The Planni.ng Commisian reviewed the Park anci Recreation Commision minutes
of April 25, 197�t with respect to the proposed change i.n the Platting Ordinance.
The Pl.anning Commission also has been working on the proposed Ordinance for
appro�c�imately one year. The following sugges�ions were rei�ended by
Commissioner Herje regarding the proposed Ordinance Na. lt1t0.80 Paragraph 2
of the City Platting Ordinance: retnove the wording storm water holding axeas
and ponds wherever it occurs in the propased ordinance. Also, strike the
words and debt retirement in eonnection with land reviousl ac uired for
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�i�ch public p�poses. 1 th line from bottom
Commissioner Herje introduced the following motion, duly secanded by Commissioner
Hakala, to recommend approval of the proposed Ordinance no. 1t1�0.80 Paragraph 2,
subject to the following;
1. removing the wording storm water holding areas and ponds wherever
it occurs, and
2. strike the following wording: and debt retirement in connection
with land previously acquired far such public purpo�es.
The motion carried with Commissioners Christiansen and Lundsgaard vating nay.
(Commissioner Christiansen left meeting at 11:30 p.m.)
7. �ISCUSS REPt}RT FROM All HOC CON�IITTEE REGARDING HOUSING
Commissioner Herje stated the ad hoc committee consisting of both the Human
Rights Commission mambers and Planning Commission members met with the
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consultant to review his final report. Copies of the report� entilted
'rAlternate Approaches Toward Dealing with Housing Problems in Golden Va12ey"�
were mailed to the Planning Corrunission members with their agenda material.
After discussing the report it was moved by Herje� seconded by Leonard, carried
unanimously, that the Planning Commission has reviewed the report that was
approved by the Human Rights Commission and that the Planning Commission support;
these ten recommendations as listed on Page 18 and I9 of the report.
There being no further business to come before the meeting, it was on motia�,
duly seconded, adjourned at 12:05 A.M.
Chairman John Sampson Secretary Kathryn Her�e
NO PLANNING �MMISSION MEETING MAY 27, 1971t