11-14-77 PC Minutes �'� 3
MINUTES OF THE GOLDEN VALLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION
November 14, 1977
A regular me�eting of the Golden Vatley Planning Corrmission was held at 7:�0 P.M.
on Monday, November 14, 1977 at the Civic Center, 7800 Golden Valley Road,
Golden Valley, Minnesota.
Chair Sehlin presided and the following memb�ers were present: Commissioners
E�strom, For�ter, Herje, Hughes, Mindess. Also present were John Darling,
Planner, and Jon Westlake, staff inember.
Members absent: Corrmissioners Polachek, Specktor, and Wagman.
1 . APPR�t�AL OF MINUTES: MOVED by Mindess, seconded by Hughes, carried
unanimously, to approve the minutes of minutes of the October 1i , 1977
Planning Commission meeting as mailed.
2. PLANNED UNIT DFVELOPMENT - INFORMATIONAL HEARING
P.U.O. #1-B Concept Plan
Proponent: Colonial Acres Home, Inc.
location: 5800 St. Croix Avenue
Request: 100 Unit Senior Citizens Building
Mr. John Darling, Planner, reviewed the Planning Report as fotlnws:
1 . This current proposat is an amendment to PUD-1 (B�nson-Orth) an officc�
building complex which has been partially developed (Gity approved stages-
see Planning Commission meeting minutes September 24, 1973 and City
Councii minutes October i , i973). The proposed PUD Plan .�ner�dment is
to construct 100 senior citizen housing units in-lieu-of completing the
project area with another office building.
2. A general site plan has been submitted along with a narrative explanatory
text and pretiminary building elevation and itoor plan sketches.
Significant plan features are:
a) One-hundred (100) retirement housing units in one (1 ) 6-story (mid-rise)
building on 2.59 acres witha resultant density of 38.�, units per acre
(net).
b) The project is to be privately owned and operated with occupants
paying for tiving space and services provided; as such, this is not a
`"public" (government ) subsidized housing project.
c) A total of 73 parking spaces (off-street) are provided,
d) Structural (buiiding and surfaced areas) coverage is 4yq with 55% of the
site being landscaped area.
3. At this time, the application is for concept approval only which would
involve the following basic issues:
a) Land Use - Would apartment units of the type proposed be a proper use
of the site in the public interest?
b) Density - Is the number of dwelling units excessive in relation to
the site area and location? Are density related problems such as
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traffic presented?
c) Building height — Is a 6—story building ap�ropriate at this location?
If the plan concept is approved, additional and more detailed plans
would be required later for General Plan approval and construction
permits; a� so, specific conditions woutd be drafted for inclusion
in the PUD Permit.
4. It is aur opini�an �hat the applicant is correct in suggesting that this
is a needed use in the ger�eral public interest and the site in question
is very well suited to senior citizen housing. Other>observations are:
a) Based upon our experience with similar projects in other communities,
we would agree that a project of less than 100 units may not be
feasible or practicable.
b) Such projects can normally be expected to reduce public service
costs over a period of time as noted by the Applicant. It should
be determined, however, what the property tax status of this
project will be as compared to other and similar projects.
c) Proximity to the health care center across St. Croix Ave. is a gooc!
locational feature as is proximity to the park area and convenience
commercial outlets. In fact, all "locational". features add up to
what could be considered an ''ideal" tocation meeting senior citizen
housing needs.
d) It is our opinion that a 6—story huilding at this location would
not be detrimental to the neighborhood environment although much
would be dependent upon the architectural style and quality as
well as excellence of landscaping.
e) The division of resident and staff traffic and parking is a good
feature; access to resident parking only from St. Croix and no
drive being developed on through to Duluth Street seems to meet
prior public concerns over potential traffic probtems. The project
will generate minimal traffic volumes in comparison to an office
building or a standard or family type apartment building; there
will be no "peak—hour'�' conflicts due to the age and occupational
status of the residents: Provisions have been made for emergency
vehicie access.
f) It is our opinion that the Applicant is correct in the assessment ,
of off—street parking needs; evaluation of simitar housing projects :
indicates a heavy parking demand onty on special occassions and
certain holidays. Should this assessment prove incorrect, a PUD
Permit condition could be to require development of additional
off—street parking spaces to the immediate north of the proposed
building and to pre—arrange caoperative, joint usage parking
agreements for over—flow demands and needs.
g) Planning studies indicate that such projects have no affect upon
adjacent or nearby property values. (Neither positive r�or negative
affects)
5. It is our opinion that retirement housing of the type proposed would
be an exceilent land use and be in general conformity to the intent
and purpose of the zoning district map and the current Comprehensive
Munici.pal Plan.
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6. The proposed density is not excessive for the type of use proposed and
located adjacent to public open space.
7. Summary. From a planning viewpoint, this is an excellent project and,
with proper controls, not be in any way detrimental to the neighborhood
or community environment. As a "concept", this is a good plan although
final approval for construction should be subject to approval of addi—
tional and rnore detailed plans and drafting of appropriate PUD Permit
conditions."
The Planning Corrmission for this meeting also requested the number of
apartment units that could be built on the site and a comparison of other
similar uses in the community.
A. Multiple Zoning — The property is zoned Multiple (M-1 ) which has a
two story height limitation for an apartment project. Under current
multiple density standards, the property would support 23 units or 25
units if garages were provided as part of the structure.
B. Similar Uses — Presently in the community the closest similar use is
the Dover Hill seven story Senior Citizen Building which cantains 122
units. The following is noted about the project:
1 . Average tenant age is 70 years old (60 is the youngest tenant).
2. Number of tenants that have vehicles are forty (40). Garages now
rented are thirty—two (32).
3. Type of transportation:
a) Most use public transit if they do not have a car
b) Walk if a short distance
c) Receive rides from relative or Social Worker
d) Bus scheduling is twice a day, tenants would like more scheduled
buses per day.
4. According to the resident manager, the number of trips per day is
hard to determine, but it is fett on an average that there would
be eight (8) trips per week.
Mr. James VanVugt, Administrator for Coloniat Acres Home, Inc. , was present,
and those involved in the planning, to answer the technical questions about
the proposal . Mr. VanVugt ,stated they had met twice with the neighbors to
inform of life for the aging citizens. The alternate that the proponents
are proposing is congregate housing. The difference between congregate
housing and a nursing home is that it altows the senior citizens to live
independently in an apartment with certain support services such as dining,
limited housekeeping, social programs, and health monitoring; however, no
treatment is done at this care level . This type of care is an alternative
to a much rriore expensive type of care—which is nursing home. The cost of
congregate housing is about 1J3 of the care provided by a nursing home.
Therefore, the proponents feel strongly that alternatives have to be pro—
vided, especially for people on fixed incomes and living longer. The
Federal government is very interested in this approach because of its
reduced costs. The proponents ask that the Planning Commission in considering
this request look at the proposal on the basis of a real need in the community.
The individual apartments will range in size from 400 square feet to 800 square
feet, which is a two bedroom unit, and each apartment will contain a kitchen.
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To qualify as a resident the individual must pay an entry fee and be capable of
paying a monthly maintenance fee. The age of these people for this type of
housing are late 70' s and early 80' s.
The parking and garage area will be bermed and landscaped for minimal visibility.
The staff will not exceed 12 peopte. Regarding the traffic, there are two
similar operations in Minneapolis with the following statistics: The first com-
plex has 19� residents-20 of which have cars, and the second complex has 195
residents-12 of which have cars. The proposal for the 100 units contains 12
enclosed spaces, 49 open spaces, and 12 open spaces for staff located to the
north of the structure. The proposal will fill a need and provide a service
to the community.
Mr. Mites of Crown Research Corporation, which provides consulting services for
retirement communities around the country, referred to a letter on parking,
guest parking, and staff parking, which was part of the agenda material .
Mr. Charles Cotter of Benson-Orth Associates reviewed the previous request
regarding office buitdings in P.U.D. #1 and P.U.D. #1-A.
The following residents expressed their concerns as follows: One resident
questioned the height of the building and number of parking spaces and the differ-
ence between this parking and over crowded parking conditions now at Cotonial
Acres Nursing Home. Mr. Kreber, 1500 Yosemate Ave. N. , expressed concern about
traffic-especially on weekends. Mrs. Nancy Kline, 1450 Yosemite Ave. N. , was
against a 6-story building, and would rather see an office building, which has
no weekend traffic. Mr. Reininger, 1620 Welcome Ave. N. , questioned the benefit
of the proposal because it is tax exempt. Mr. Culhane, 1430 Yosemite Ave. N. ,
questioned whether water and sewer were adequate to handle the proposal . Also
could area be rezoned Residential? Another resident present questioned the
agreement of using Benson-Orth' s office parking lot for parking of staff people.
The Planning Comnission in discussing the request reviewed the accommodation fee
charged to an individual occupying the unit and the monthly fee. The range of
the accorrmodation fee is approximately $19,0�0 to $3$,000. The monthly fee is
approximately $285.00 for a single person. The Planning Commission questioned
that if a resident outlives his resources, could he then stay in the unit. It
was pointed out that this is why� there is an accommodation fee, and also, contri-
butions are used for this. The Planning Commission noted presently there are no
specific State Laws that regulate congregate housing. The tax exempt status of
the organization and the City' s housing poticy was discussed. The Corrrnission
discussed the specifics of the request such as the location of the structure,
land use, and height. In reviewing the request the Comnission noted the delivery
and staff would use the office park entrance. The residents and visitors would
use St. Croix Avenue. Emergency vehicles access is provided between the office
parking lot and to the East of the proposed structure. The Planning Commission
again discussed the height of the structure, access to St. Croix Ave.-noting the
Use Permit does not allow access to St. Croix Ave. The Corr�nission then discussed
an office use vs an apartment complex on this land. The Corrxnission reviewed the
minutes of P.U.D. #1 and P.U.D. #1-A.
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It was moved by Herje, seconded by Forster, carried unanirr�usly, to recorrrnend
denial of the request for P.U.D. T—B, noting the foltowing:
1 . A professional office building with access to Duluth Street is a better plan
for the use of the property,
2. It is incongruous to place a 6—story building in a residential area,
3• The Planning Commission is not persuaded that this use is of sufficient
benefit to justify waiving the neighborhood consideration, and does not
represent good planning for this parcel ,
4. Traffic problems have not been adequately answered, including parking and
density,
5. This proposal reneges an agreement made between the developer of P.U.O. #1
and #l—A and the City of Golden Valley.
3• WAIVER OF THE PLATTING ORDINANCE
Appticant: Dr. Lowetl Kleven
Location: 6860 Narold Avenue
Request: Add 20 feet from North Parcel
7oning: Residential
The request is to add 20 feet to Lot 13 Block 3 W�ndsor Woods (6860 Narotd Avenue)
from the contiguous North parcel . Both lots exceed the minimum square footage
requirements. Or. lowelt Kleven was present for the request.
It was moved by Herje, seconded by Mindess, carried unanimously, to recorrxnend
approval of the waiver of the Platting Ordinance as submitted.
4. WAIVER OF THE PLATTING ORDINANCE
Applicant: Richard Johnson
Location: 221 Sunnyridge Lane
Request: Divide Off Southwest Area for Additional Lot
Zoning: Residential
The proponent, Richard Johnson, is requesting to divide off the Southerly area of
an acre lot. The proposed lot would contain 9,120 square feet with a frontage
of approximately 92' at the 35—foot setback line. The difficulty in dividing
the lot to meet the minimum requirements is that the existing house is in the
eenter of the large lot. The Planning Con�nission reviewed the April 9, 1973
Planning Commission minutes, at which time the identical request was denied by
the P1 anni ng Cornrni ssi on.
The Comnissionin discussing the request asked Mr. Johnson if he had recently
contacted his neighbor in regard to purchasing additional land so that the pro—
posal could conform to the Ordinance. Mr. Johnson indicated he had contacted the
neighbor in 1973 but not for this current request. The Commission in discussing
this request noted that all tots in the area meet or exceed the minimum require—
ments. Commissioner Edstrom noted that the lot division would not increase the
density of the tot using the standard of 12,500 square feet if the lot is
1 acre in size.
Mr. Mitton Baker of 220 Meadaw Lane North was present and asked what standards
are used in determining tot size.
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It was moved by Edstrom, seconded by Mindess to reco�rrxnend approval of the
request, noting there is sufficient land area for two lots. Upon vote being
taken by roll call , the following voted in favor of the motion: Edstrom and
Mindess; and the following voted against the same: Forster, Herje, and Hughes.
The motion did not carry.
5. GENERAL
(A) Highway 12 and Turners Crossroad
Chair Sehlin informed the Planning Commission of the discussion regarding the
Highway 12 and Turners Crossroad area at the November 7, 1977 Council meeting,
after which Lowell Odland, City Engineer, reviewed the history of this area,
including current concept road plans for the North side of Highway 12, and
exptained the St. Louis Park proposal on the South side.
(Comnissioner Herje teft the meeting. )
Mr. Tom Erickson, Attorney representing two property owners in the area, was
present and asked questions.
The Planning Commission asked that this item be placed on the December 12, 1977
agenda, allowing the Planning Corrmission time for response to the Council .
(B) Agreement — Medicine Lake Bus Company
Jon Westlake informed the Piannir�g Cor►imission of the prob]em the contractor,
Rauenhorst Corporation, is having with Item 2 (e) of the Agreement which states
"Flarrxnable waste traps shall be required in the fueling areas to collect
petroleum products".
After discussion it was moved by Mindess, seconded by Hughes, carried unanimously,
that since Item 2 (e) of the Agreement appears it may not be technically feasible,
the Planning Commission recommends that the proponents pravide a reasonable
alternative which would not involve release into the sewer system.
The Planning Commission asked the City staff to contact ths Pollution Control Agency
regarding the aforesaid.
�C) Housing & Community Development Commission — Block Grant Funds
The Planning Corrrnission reviewed a tetter from the Chair of the Housing Community
Development Cor�nission regarding input from the Planning Corrrnission on the block
grant funds.
The Planning Commission will place this item on their November 28, 1977 agenda
to respond back to the Housing & Community Development Corrmission.
(t�} Letter Withdrawing Commercial Rezoning Request for 1161 Turners
Crossroad
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Jon Westlake informed the Planning Commission that he had received a letter from
Thomas Erickson, Attorney representing the property owner, withdrawing the
rezoning request for 4Jendy' s Restaurant which was part of a proposal at the
September 26, 1977 Planning Commission meeting. The property is located in the
Spring Green South Addition on a parcel known as Park.
There being no further business to come before the meeting, it was on motion,
duly seconded, adjourned at 11 :25 P.M.
Jody Sehlin, Chair G. William Forster, Secretary �