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Minutes of the Golden Valley
Ptanning Commission
�uty 13, 1981
A regular meeting of the Planning Gommission washeld in the Council
Chambers of the Civic Center, 7800 Golden Valtey Road, Golden Valley,
Minnesota. Chairman Thompson 'catled the meeting to order at 7:35 p.m.
Those present were Commissioners: Eastes, Forster, Leppik, Singer and
Thompson.
Commissioners Moede and Polachek were not present at the beginning of the
meeting.
Also present were Michael Miller, Director of Planning and Redevelopment
and A1da Peikert, Assistant Planner.
I . Approval of Minutes - June 22, 1981 :
It was moved by Eastes and seconded by Leppik to approve the minutes of the
June 22, 1981 Planning Cammission meeting. Commissioner Singer questioned
Chairman Thompson regarding his offer to send a letter to the Mayor expressing
Planning Commission concern that Planning Commissioners be covered by
liability insurance. Chairman ThomPson informed the Commi�sion that he
had discussed this concern with the Mayor and would be following up
their discussion with a written communication. �he Planning Commission
unanimously approved the minutes of the June 22, 1981 meeting.
II . Set Date for Informat Pubtic Hearing - Preliminary Plat:
APPLICANT: Independent Schoot District #270 - Hopkins
LOCATION: 5400 Glenwood Avenue
REQUEST: Approval of Preliminary Plat of
"Meadowbrook Sehool Addition"
Chairman Thompson introdueed this �tem and noted that Flanning and Redevel-
opment Director Michael Mil;ler reeommended setting a Mearing date o�f
either July 27 or August 10, 1981 .
Commissioner Moede arrived at fihe meeting.
At the request of Chairman Thompson, Mr. Miller reviewed agenda items
expected for the July 27, 198.1 meeting and concluded that there was no
reason the hearing could not be set for Juty 27, 1981 .
It was moved by Leppik, seconded by Singer and carried unanimously to
set an informal public hearing date of July 27, 19�1 to consider the pre-
liminary plat of ''Meadowbraok Schoot Addition".
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III . Informal Public Hearing - Rezoning:
APPLICANT: City of Golden Va11ey
LOCATION: 9211 Rlymouth Avenue
REQUEST: Rezone Property from Industrial to Light Industrial
Chairman Thompson introduced this item and opened the meeting to questions
from Commissioners. Commissioner Forster offered the opinion that
rezoning of this parcel from Industrial to Light Industrial would be an
unnecessary gesture, as the property is already bordered by IndustriaT
on several sides. Commissioner Eestes voiced agreement with Commissioner
Forster's comment.
Commissioner Polachek arrived at the meeting.
Chairman Thompson opened the informal pwblic hearing. There was no one
present who wished to speak on this item, and Chairman Thompson clbsed
the public hearing.
It was moved by Singer, seconded by Leppik, and carried to advise the
City Council that the Planning Commission concurs wifh the Council initiated
rezoning of 9211 Plymouth Avenue from industrial to Light Industrial .
Commissioner5 Forster and Eastes oppased the motion.
IV. Informal Public Hearin - PUD 30-B Concept Plan Approvat :
APPLICANT: Bor-Son Building Corporation
LOCATION: Hillsboro Avenue and Mendelssohn Avenue North
REQUEST: Concept P1an Approval for Partially Subsidized
Townhouse Development
Chairman Thompson introduced this item anrl opened the meeting to Commis-
sioner questions of staff. At the request of the Commission, Ghairman
Thompson catled on Planning and Red�velopment Director Michael Miller to
explain the proposal and present the staff recorrnn�ndation: Mr. Miller
reviewed the proposed plan and answEred questions from Comroissioners
concerning the drainage plan, inclusion- of the pondic�g area in density
calculations, HUD financing commitments, and status of negotiations for
purch'ase of the eastern parcel referred to as the Galant property. Mr.
Milier explained that the entire acreage, including ponding areas, should
properly be inctuded in PUD density calculations. Concerning financing,
Mr. Miller reported that it was his understanding that the proponent
has secured a corranitment of HUD Section 8 rental subsidies for the sub-
sidized portion of the project and has applied for HUD Section 234 mortgage
insurance for the market rate housing portion of the project. Concerning
the property acquisition negotiations, Mr. Miller reported that he under-
stood that the proponent had made an o�fer on the Galant property and
that negotiations are in pragress, but that he had no knowledge of con-
clusion of a purchase agreement or earnest money contract.
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Chairman Thompson then ealled on the proponent, represented by Mr. Donald
Jacobson, Director of Development, Bor-Son Construction Companies.
Mr. Jacobson began by intordueing other representatives involved in the
project, who accompanied him at the meeting to assist in answering questions:
Lynn Burton, Northland Martgage Company
Bilt Nennemuth, Arehitect, Rieke Carroll Muller
Betty Kaelke, Development Manager, Bor-Son Construction Company
Ms. Lynn Burton answered questions from the Commissioners concerning the
HUD Section 234 and Section 8 programs which the proponent proposes to
utilize in financing this project.
At the request of Commissioner Moede, Mr. Jacobson reviewed his letter
included in the staff report which outlined adjustments to the plan made
in response to concerns expressed at two meetings held with neighboring
homeowners. In response to Kings Vatley resident concern regarding drain-
age, Mr. Jacobson informed the Commission that he could not say that
existing drainage problems i'n Kings Valtey wil ] be soived by the drainage
improvements planned in connection with the praposed project, but that the
Kings Valley residents will have better insurance against drainage problems
as a result of construction of the two drainage ponds proposed as part
of the project than they would have without any improvement to the property.
Jn response to questions from Commissioner Eastes and Chairman Thompson
regarding a Homeowners AssoGiation .for owner occupied units and a manage-
ment pian for rental units, Ms. Betty Kaelke outlined the proposed manage-
ment plan, exptaining that the r�ntal Project wi11 be managed by the
management component of their company, Reatty M�nagement Services, and
that both management and fair marketing plans must be submitted for both.
MHFA and HUD approvals. At the request of Commissioner Moede that City
requirements for a management _plan be communicated to the proponent,
Chairman Thompson called on Mr. Miller, who explained the role of the
City Human Rights Commission in review and enforcement of the mar�agement
plan.
Chairman Thompson asked Mr. Jacobson to outline for the Commission, in
as much detait as possibte at the. concept stage of develapment, the �i�ancial
assistance the proponent witl request of the City in order to make the
project financialty feasible. Mr. Jacobson answered that atthough he did
not have detailed financial in�formation available at the concept stage,
he was willing to review what his company was thinking about in terms o-f
City financial commitments. Mr. Jacobson exptained that the objective of
the project is to provide low and moderate ineome rental housing and
starter homes for owner occupancy. The proponent wishes to cooperate with
the City in providing quality housing, and the strafiegy for arriving at
financial requirements is to first start with the quality desired and
then work backward to the financing required to provide that quality. Mr.
Jacobson said that in order to provide the f unctional ponding, tandscaping
and other quatity amenities desired by b-oth the proponent and the City, he
thinks the City should authorize both tax increment -Financing and expenditure
of Community Development B1ock Grant (CDBG) funds. Mr. Jacobson did not
as yet have figures for the amounts of funding that might be required from
each of these two sources, but he felt that it would be neeessary to involve
both programs
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in the project in order to provide the City with the desired assurance
of quality. Mr. Jacobson descri6ed an elderly housing project which- his
company constructed in New Hope, where the City provided financial sub-
sidies in a similar menner in order to provide for the inclusiorr of amen-
ities desired. Mr. Jacobson did not as yet have a cost estimate for
the pond`ing to be constructed as part of the project, but he informed the
Commission that the value of private utilities �lready installed on the
Galant property, which must be acquired for the development, was estimated
at $68,000.
Chairman Thompson opened the informal public hearing at 8:40 p.m.
Chairman Thompson recognized Mr. Bruce Duffy and Mr. Steven Wells, sPokes-
men for the Kings Vatley Homeowners Association.
Mr. Steve Wells, 2228 Kings Valley Road East, stated that in the excite-
ment over combination of the previous PUD site with the Galant property
and over the meeting on the revised proposal between the Kings Valley
Homeowners Association and the developer, people had lost sight of points
agreed upon by the homeowners, Planning Commission and City Council at
the time the previous proposal was under consideratian. These points
included avoidance of concentration in one area of the subsidized housing
units, a reduction in density, prohibition of apartment type units, and
connection of storm drainage to the City storm sewer system. Mr. Wells
concluded that very little had been accomplished in terms of achieving
these goals previously agreed upon by City officials and the Kings Va11ey
residents.
Mr. Bruce Duffy, 2304 English Circle, Kings Ualley, presented Kings Valley
Homeowners Association concerns including loss of wildlife habitat,
proximity of proposed ponding levels to etevations of Kings Valley residences,
inadequate parking space, and assurance of sanitary sewer system capacity
to handle additional flows.
After Mr. Duffy answered questions from the Commissioners regarding
ponding and witdlife concerns, Chairman Thompson calTed on Mr. Miller to
address these two issues. Mr. Mil }er informed the Commission that the
larger of the two proposed ponds was approved with the Galant townhouse
development but was never completed by the developer, and that both ponds
would have outlets ultimately entering a City storm sewer interceptor.
Concerning witdlife on the site, Mr. Mitler stated that wildlife habitat
will necessarily be altered by any development on the site, and that while
it will not be destroyed in its entirety, change must be expected in an
urban environment.
Commissioner Moede asked Mr. Miller whether an Environmental Assessment
would be required due to the change in ponding. Mr. Miller stated that
environmentat review requirements apply to natural wetlands but not to
man made water bodies such as in this case.
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Joanne Levine, 2203 Kings Va11ey Road, asked how much the southwest �n:trance
had been moved in relation to the property line and whether existing
trees could be preserved. Mr. Hennemuth, architect for the project,
stated that the entrance had been moved from 5 feet from the property iine
to 35 feet from the property line and tMat the landscape plan called for
an upgrading of the trees in the area. Ms. Levine expressed `concern
regarding additional traffic on Mendelssohn and inadequacy of parking space.
Lynn Baudhuin, 2136 Tamarin Trai1 , Kings Valley, expressed conc�rn that the
subsidized portion of the project might be constructed wi:fihout eompletion
of the market rate housing in the event that financing of the market
rate portion of the project proves infeasib}e: Chairman 'Thompson assured
the residents that approval of the project would be valid only for the
development as a whole and that the developer could not proceed with only
a portion of the development. �
David Baudhuin, 2136 Tamarin Trail , Kings Valley, expressed concern over
density, effects on neighboring- property values, and parking provisions.
Dennis Rock, 2404 Hillsboro, Galant Townhouses, sfiated that he was speaking
for himself only and expressed concerns regarding toss of wildlifie,
inadequacy of parking, increased traffic, and reported problems experienced
by a relative who tived next to a subsidized housing project.
Bever}ee Lutz, 2318 English Circle, Kings Valley, stated that she had
chosen to move from an aprtment to Kings Valley fort:ti��home environment
and did not wish to live next to rental property. Ms. Lutz asked rental
and price ranges of the rental and ownership units. Chairman Thompson
informed the residents that details of unit reng�ls and costs are not
available at the concept stage of ptanning, but that the developer had
indicated the price range of thE ownership units would be $55,OQ0 to $70,000.
Mr. Jacobson said that the rentat figure used for application purpos�s
was approximately $440 to $450 per month for a two bedroom unit.
Grace Grady, 2109 Tamarin Trail , Kings Vall-ey, stated that she woutd iike
to raise the issue of quatity and asked about income limitations f�or :
ownership of the Section 234 housing' units. Ms. Burton, financial adviser
on the project, explained that: Section 234 is a mortgage insurance program
which daes not involve income limitations on buyers of the housing units.
Bob Pearson, 2402 Hillsboro Aver�ue �orth, Gatant Townhouses, expressed
concerns regarding density, parking and traffic. Mr. Pearson, as a har�di-
capped person, pointed out the speeial problems which increased traffic
presents for disabled persons.
Patty Ostrov, 2213 Kings Valley Road East, questioned a statement made by
Mr. Miller in his presentation ofi the proposal to the effect that the
proposed plan recitified traff'ic speeding prablems. Mr: Miller clarified
his statement that the interior street system had been adjusted to discourage
speeding. Ms. Ostrov furth�r stated that she did not feel that loss of
witdlife was necessary or inevitable.
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Joy Reis, 2113 Kings Valley Road, asked whether a traffic study had been
done for Mendelssohn Avenue North and stated that waiting times at stop
signs during peak traffic hours are .already prohibitive. Mr. Miller
explained that Hennepin County would be responsible for installation of
signal lights at Mendelssohn and Medicine Lake Road and that the County
approves signals based on a traffic count formuta. Ms. Reis asked whether
the proposed plan still includes a berm on the curve along Mendelssohn and
expressed concern that the berm r�ight obstruct visibility of children
playing and possibly running out into the street. Mr. Miller stated
that a berm is shown in this location on the p,lan and that a side�walk
is also indicated but would not be construeted by the City. Mr. Jacobson
stated that Bor-Son Construction Companies intend to install the sidewalk
but may ask the City for assistanee as necessary.
LeRoy Altermatt, 2222 Kings ValTey Road East, suggested use of four way
stop signs at congested intersections, and Mr. Miller confirmed that
installation of four way stop signs would be a City decision where City
streets are involved. Mr. Alt�rmatt questioned how this proposal could
include extensive ponding work when Kings Valtey residents had experienced
difficulty in obtaining permission for dredging. Chairman Thompson repeated
that the proposed large pond on the eastern portion of the site was pre-
viously approved as part of the Galant development. Mr. Altermatt concluded
with a reference to apparent uncertainty as to whether financing wilt
be available to instatl the sidewalk shown on the plan and questioned
whether other features of the proposed plan were dependent on ava'ilability
of financing.
Steve Welts, one of the spokesmen for the Kings Valley Homeowners Assoc.
was recognized a second time to make concluding remarks and asked the same
question as Mr. Altermatt, whether amenities inctuded in the approved �lan
would be eliminated due to funding tim+tations. Chairman Thompson assured
residents that the developer woutd be required to carry out the plan as
approved by the City Council, and that the City of Golden Valtey is not in
the business of financing development and the developer may not come baek
to the City for funding.
Ben-Zion Goldstein, 2124 Tamarin Trai1 , Kings Ualley, questioned the density
of the subsidized portion of the devel'opr�ent viewed separatety, and Chair-
man Thompson informed Mr. Goldstein that the Commission was required to
consider density based on the whole development.
Chairman Thompson closed the informal pubtic hearing at 9:50 p.m. and turned
the meeting over to discussion by the Commissioners .
At the request of Commissioner Moede, Chairman Thompson explained for the
public subsequent procedural steps for City approval of the PUD concept
plan and general plan of development. Mr. Miller added an explanation
of the PUD permit which eonsituties a contract between the City and the
developer assuring devetopment in ��ccordance wi:th conditions of the PUD
approval .
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Concerns expressed by Commissioners during the following discussion included
the proponent 's requests for both tax increment financing and CDBG funding,
}ack of traffic projections, project density considering the buildable
land area exctusive ofi ponding, and failure to integrate subsidized and
market rate housing units.
In response to a concern over segregation of the subsidized housing units
from the market rate units expressed by Commissioner Eastes, Mr. Jacobson
explained that integration ofi the units would create management and
maintenance problems, due to tFie fact that the owner occupied Units
would be maintained thraugh a homeowners association while the rental
units would be under separate management.
Commissioner Singer asked whether it would be possible to move the sub-
sidized housing units to the northern portion of the site away from the
Kings Valtey deve}opment. Mr. Jacobson replied that the east and west
arrangement of the two types of housing was the result of balancing
numerous overall design considerations and constraints, including ponding
requirements, natural buffers and access points.
Commissioner Forster asked how much a denial of tax increment financing
would escalate the cost of the market rate housing units. Mr. Jacobson
estimated that without tax increment financing, the price per dwelling
unit on the ownership side of the project would increase approximately
$5,000.
Commissioner Moede requested information on persons who would qualify
for purchase of the two housing types and asked whether the homeowners
association would be able to contract for services from the rerrtal managers.
Mr. Jacobson replied that it would be left up to the homeowners to inifiiate
such an arrangement.
Commissioner Moede stated that she recognized the need for housing, both
subsidized and market rate, in Golden Valley but had a number of concerns
and unanswered questions concerning tfiis proposal and woutd feel more
comfortable acting an the proposal after obtaining additional information.
Commissioner Moede moved to continue discussion and defer action until the
next meeting. There was no second to the motion.
Commissioner Forster stated that he liked the concept, that it was the best
proposat he had seen for the site, and that he wouid Tike to recommend
City Council approval with a recommendation that the Council not consider
tax increment financ:ing. Chairman Thompson stated that the primary concern
of the Planning Commission at the concept stage should be whether the
development would be a valuable addition to the- City.
It was moved by Forster and seconded by Eastes to recommend City Council
approval of the concept p}an for PUD 30-B.
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Commissioner Potachek praposed an amendment to the motion specifying that
the concept pTan include the following features, the first five of which
are listed in a letter from the proponent included in the staff report
and all of which are shown on the revised concept plan under consideration:
1 . Reduction of the �aumb�r of units from 70 to`64.
2. Construction of two on-site storm water retention ponds with a combined
storage capacity of 15.7 acre feet.
3. Adjustment of the southwest vehiele entrance 45 feet to the north and
provision of a landscaped buffer along the south boundary o� the
Gunderson property.
4. Retention in a natural form of the wildtife and lowtand area at the
south portion of the Gatant properfiy with relocation to the north of
the walkway to the park.
5• Adjustment of the garage locations for the one bedroom ownership
units away from the existing Galant townhouses.
6. Construction af a sidewatk on the north and west boundaries of the site
along Mendelssohn between the two access points.
7. A parking ratio of two spaces for each unit with an additional 19
visitor parking spaces.
The amendment was accepted.
Commissioner Moede proposed a second amendment to the motion specifying
that the proponent continue to meet with the neighboring homeowners and
present to them future plans for PUD 30-B. Mr. Jacobson stated that he
would welcome the opportunity to share future ptans with the neighboring
homeowners. The amendment was accepted.
The Planning Commission unanimously approved the amended motion to recom-
mend approval of the PUD 30-B concept plan.
V. Report on City Council Meeting - July 7, 1981 :
Chairman Thompson represented the Planning Commission at the July 7,
1981 City Council meeting and reported that the Council requested staff
to att�end future Council meetings to answerquestions concerning recommended
revisions to the lndustrial , Railroad and Radio sections of the Zoning
Ordinance. Chairman Thompson deferred a comPlete report on the July 7,
1981 Council meeting until the next PTanning Commission meeting.
VI . Discussion of the Role and Charge of the Planning Commission:
Chairman Thompson deferred this item until a 'future meeting.
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UII . Set Date for (nformal Public Hearirrg - Preliminary Plat:
APPLICANT: Dimitrios Kottas
LOCATION: 1031 Pennsylvania Avenue North
REQUEST: Approva1 of Preliminary Plat of "Kottas Addition"
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Chairman Thompson introduced this item and noted that PTanning and Re- �
development Director Michael Miller recommended a Juty 27, 1981 hearing
date. At the request of Ghairman Thompson, Mr. Miller reviewed the other
hearings scheduled for July 27, 1981 and exptained the proposed preliminary
plat under consideration.
It was moved by Forster, seconded by Moede and carried unanimously to set
an informal public hearing date of July 27, 1981 to consider the preliminary
plat af "Kottas Addition".
The meeting was adjourned at 10:50 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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David Thompson, Chair n Mona Moede, Secretary
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