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PLANNING COMMISSION
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July 11, 1983
A regular meeting of the Planning Commission was held in the Council Chambers
of the Civic Center, 7800 Golden Valley Road, Golden Valley, Minnesota.
Chairman Thompson called the meeting to order at 7:05 P.M.
Those present were Commissioners Forster, Leppik, Polachek, Prazak, Singer and
Thompson. Commissioner Tubman was absent. Also present was Alda Peikert,
Assistant Planner.
I. Approval of Minutes - June 27, 1983
It was moved by Commissioner Leppik, seconded by Commissioner Polachek and
carried unanimously to approve the minutes of the June 27, 1983 Planning
Commission meeting as recorded.
II. Set Date for Informal Public Hearing - Rezoning
APPLICANT: International Development, Inc.
LOCATION: 7700 Wayzata Boulevard
REQUEST: Change Zoning from Residential to Business
and Professional Offices Zoning District
Chairman Thompson introduced this agenda item and noted the staff recommen-
dation of a July 25, 1983 informal public hearing date. Mr. A1 Stobbe, local
representative of the proponent, and Ms. Donna Treichel , Coldwell Banker, were
present.
It was moved by Commissioner Polachek, seconded by Commissioner Forster and
carried unanimously to reset the informal public hearing on rezoning of 7700
Wayzata Boulevard to the Business and Professional Offices Zoning District for
the July 25, 1983 Planning Commission meeting.
III. Set Date for Informal Public Hearing - PUD Preliminary Design Plan
APPLTCANT: Robert Sanko
LOCATION: 5615-5625 Olson Memorial Highway
REQUEST: Approval of Preliminary Design Plan for
PUD #41, Valley Wood
Chairman Thompson introduced this agenda item and noted the staff recommen-
dation of a July 25, 1983 informal public hearing date.
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It was moved by Commissioner Polachek, seconded by Commissioner Singer and
carried unanimously to set an informal public hearing date of July 25, 1983
for consideration of the Preliminary Design Plan of PUD #41, Valley Wood.
IV. Informal Public Hearing - Preliminary Plat
APPLICANT: Courey, Schwinn, Kodadek and McRoberts, P.A.
LOCATION: 206 Sunnyridge Lane
REQUEST: Approval of Preliminary Plat of "Tolg Addition"
Chairman Thompson introduced this agenda item and recognized Mr. John Waldron
from Courey, Schwinn, Kodadek and McRoberts, P.A. , who was present to repre-
sent the proponents.
Chairman Thompson asked whether there were questions of staff, and Commissioner
Prazak asked whether the proposal was the same as originally submitted or
whether it had been changed in response to staff direction. Assistant Planner
Alda Peikert stated that the proposal was as received with the formal applica-
tion, but that she understood that previous inquiries had been made to the
Engineering Department and that the proposal was drawn to correspond to
Engineering direction.
Chairman Thompson called on Mr. Waldron to make a presentation for the propo-
nents. Mr. Waldron described the proposed plat and the background for pre-
paration of the proposal . Mr. Waldron stated that the proponents originally
prepared a cul-de-sac design and would prefer a cul-de-sac to a through street,
but that the City Engineering Department directed development of a through
street connecting Roanoke Circle to Sunnyridge Lane.
Commissioner Leppik asked Mr. Waldron whether Roanoke Circle currently ends
with a cul-de-sac considering the half section map which shows an extension
from the cul-de-sac to the subject property. Mr. Waldron explained that the
pavement ends with the cul-de-sac but that right of way is reserved for
possible street extension.
Mr. Bill Webster, 4007 Roanoke Circle, offered a drawing which he had prepared
showing the existing cul-de-sac. Mr. Webster explained that the reserved
right of way is currently maintained as lawn by the two homeowners on each
side of the right of way.
Commissioner Leppik asked whether the cul-de-sac right of way would revert to
the adjoining property owners if the cul-de-sac were abandoned. Ms. Peikert
replied that the cul-de-sac would remain right of way as platted but that it
could be used as lawn in the same manner as the right of way reserved for
street extension is currently maintained as lawn.
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Commissioner Forster asked the rationale for completion of a loop street
extending Roanoke Circle to Sunnyridge Lane. Ms. Peikert replied that the two
main considerations are street maintenance and emergency vehicle access. Ms.
Peikert added that the street extension conforms to plans for a through street
provided for by means of reservation of right of way at the time of approval
of the plat to the south of the subject property, Russell 's Wirth Park Addition.
Commissioner Forster asked when Russell 's Wirth Park Addition was approved.
Mr. Robert Russell , developer of Russell 's Wirth Park Addition, was present
and informed the Commission that his plat was approved in 1972. Mr. Russell
confirmed that a through street to Sunnyridge Lane was contemplated at that
time.
Chairman Thompson opened the informal public hearing for public input.
Mr. Bill Webster, 4007 Roanoke Circle, stated that the main point is that all
of the neighbors would much prefer a cul-de-sac off of Sunnyridge Lane to a
through street extended from Roanoke Circle. Mr. Webster stated that the
through street design would be more costly and that it would be a poor choice
aesthetically. Concerning cost, Mr. Webster listed the following points:
1. The expense of removing the existing cul-de-sac at the end of
Roanoke Circle and extending the driveways of the two homeowners
on the cul-de-sac.
2. The necessity for relocation of a fire hydrant at a cost of
approximately $2500.
3. Necessity for an eight foot high retaining wall along a distance
of approximately 100 feet due to differencs in grade.
4. Creation of an unmarketable low lot which will be 14 feet lower
than the street.
5. The possibility of creating a greater number of lots with a cul-
de-sac design rather than a through street design.
6. The expense of construction of a street on poor soils.
Mr. Webster concluded his remarks on expenses with the statement that the
through street design would cost three to four times construction of a cul-de-
sac design. Mr. Webster added that the through street design is aesthetically
inferior due to the steeper grades and due to the removal of trees.
Dr. Anatol Lysyj, 4004 Roanoke Circle, stated that he is opposed to the
through street for the following reasons:
1. Dr. Lysyj understands that t�e grade change would require a
change in the elevation of the street in front of his house and
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that this would put his garage at a different elevation in
relation to the street.
2. Snowplowing inconvenience is not reason enough to eliminate a
cul-de-sac. Dr. Lysyj states that he pays taxes which support
in part the Engineering Department and road maintenance. Dr.
Lysyj offered his driveway for turnaround space for snowplows
if needed.
3. Dr. Lysyj stated that he is frequently away at night and that
his wife feels safer from robbery or intrusion on a cul-de-sac
than on a through street.
4. Dr. Lysyj stated that the through street would destroy a part
of his property and lower the property value.
Dr. Lysyj concluded that all the neighbors in the area prefer a cul-de-sac
design for the proposed development and that he sees no use in having this
number of unhappy Golden Valley citizens.
Mr. James Garfunkel , 200 Sunnyridge Lane, questioned whether the proposed lot
widths meet zoning requirements. It was confirmed that all lots in the pro-
posed subdivision meet zoning requirements for size and width. Mr. Garfunkel
stated that his concerns include the loss of huge trees unique to the area and
problems with drainage in the area.
Mr. Ron Balazs, 4011 Roanoke Circle, stated that his concern is for the visual
aspect of the area which is beautiful . Mr. Balazs questioned the need for a
loop street.
Mr. Dave Morley, 4006 Roanoke Circle, stated that his background is in archi-
tecture and planning and that Mr. Webster made some excellent points concerning
soils and elevations. Mr. Morley added the following points in support of a
cul-de-sac rather than a through street design:
1. The change in elevation will add to developer and builder problems
and possibly to drainage problems. Several neighbors in the area
already have problems with water in their basements.
2. The cul-de-sac design would increase property values and therefore
property taxes, which would pay the increased maintenance expenses.
3. Ease of street designation or maintenance is not adequate reason
to insist on a through street design.
Mrs. Daria Lysyj, 4004 Roanoke Circle, stated that the City required a large
size cul-de-sac at the end of existing Roanoke Circle specifically for the
accommodation of snowplows and that it should be adequate.
Ms. Mary Gooderl , 4015 Roanoke Circle, stated that one reason given for the
through street design is the need far twa entries for public safety purposes.
On the other hand, it has been noted that there is a higher probability of
robbery where there are two access points.
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through street. Mrs. Pedersen stated that it seems a simple solution to build
a cul-de-sac.
Mr. Richard Morley, 4006 Roanoke Circle, made the point that there are already
many other existing cul-de-sacs in the City at this time. Mr. Morley stated
that those who choose to live on a cul-de-sac do so for the quiet area and
lack of traffic.
Mr. Ray Pedersen, 4013 Roanoke Circle, stated that the proposed development is
the new enterprise going in and that it is the one which must be disrupted.
The current residents are the old enterprise and wish to maintain the area as
it is.
Chairman Thompson closed the informal public hearing.
Commissioner Forster asked for confirmation that the cost of street construc-
tion is paid by the developer. Ms. Peikert stated that the expense of street
construction is paid by the developer or assessed to the new property owners
and that it is not a cost to the City.
Chairman Thompson asked the proponent whether cost estimates have been done on
the street construction. Mr. Waldron replied that he assumes estimates have
been made but that he did not have that information.
Commissioner Singer stated that with the City of Golden Valley completely
developed, this could be the last cul-de-sac approved. Commissioner Singer
recommended that the proposal be sent back to the developer for preparation of
a new plan with a cul-de-sac design.
Commissioner Polachek expressed concern over the steep grade of the proposed
through street and stated that the grade would constitute a good basic
planning reason for turning down the proposed through street design.
It was moved by Commissioner Singer, seconded by Commissioner Polachek and
carried unanimously to continue the informal public hearing to allow the pro-
ponent time to coordinate with the City Engineering Department on preparation
of a preliminary plat design utilizing a cul-de-sac based on the following
findings:
1. A through street would result in poor land use.
2. A through street would ill serve the property to be developed
as well as the surrounding property.
3. The cul-de-sac option is preferable to the through street
option based on both aesthetic and engineering considerations.
Mr. Waldron asked about timing of a return to the Planning Commission and
whether it would be necessary for the Planning Commission to take action to
set a new hearing date before the proposal is heard again.
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It was moved by Commissioner Forster, seconded by Commissioner Leppik and
carried unanimously to amend the motion to continue the informal public
hearing until the August 8, 1983 Planning Commission meeting.
V. Informal Public Hearing - PUD Preliminary Design Plan
APPLICANT: Coto Corporation
LOCATION: 812 Lilac Drive North
REQUEST: Approval of Preliminary Design Plan for
PUD #42, North Lilac Drive Addition
Chairman Thompson introduced this agenda item and recognized Mr. Kaye
Westerlund, The Builders Studio, Inc. , who was present to represent the propo-
nents.
Chairman Thompson called on Assistant Planner Alda Peikert to expand on the
staff recommendation. Ms. Peikert reviewed the staff recommendation for con-
tinuance based on parking and drainage concerns and answered questions from
Commissioners.
Commissioner Leppik questioned whether the Planning Commission has options
other than acceptance of the proposed reuse of the former Holiday Motor Hotel
facilities short of forcing removal of buildings. Chairman Thompson stated
that the Planning Commission always has the option of denying a proposal .
Chairman Thompson called on Mr. Westerlund to speak for the proponent. Mr.
Westerlund described the proposal and then specifically addressed the issues of
parking and the proposed regional trail . Mr. Westerlund explained that the
parking located to the back of the restaurant on the north side of the site
would primarily support the banquet facilities and would be required on
banquet occasions only. Mr. Westerlund informed the Commission that the north
property line of the subject site is 50 feet from the centerline of the
railroad track and that the proposal therefore does not eliminate the trail
possibility. In response to Commissioner questions concerning proposed resi-
dential condominium use in conjunction with the office condominium use, Mr.
Westerlund explained that the residential use is contemplated in association
with office use only. A drop down type bed arrangement would be added to
office units where desired to provide sleeping accommodations for office con-
dominium owners maintaining offices in the Twin Cities but having their prin-
cipal offices and residences in another city.
Commissioner Prazak asked whether the staff concerns could be handled as con-
ditions of an approval recommendation. Ms. Peikert stated that the drainage
question could be handled as a condition requiring preparation of a drainage
plan acceptable to the City Engineer prior to City Council action on the
Preliminary Design Plan. Ms. Peikert added that although the extent of
parking deficiencies is unclear due to use by the proponent of incomplete
square footage figures, it is clear that parking is deficient on all three
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proposed parcels and it is also clear that there is no remaining space for the
provision of additional parking on the site. Ms. Peikert suggested that the
Planning Commission has the option of accepting the proposed reuse of the
existing buidings based on the clear understanding that all three proposed
parcels and uses are deficient in parking space.
Commissioner Polachek questioned the proponent on the availability of General
Motors Training Center parking. Mr. Westerlund stated that the Manager of the
General Motors Training Center has given the proponents verbal permission to
make use of General Motors Training Center parking during evening and weekend
hours. Mr. Westerlund explained that General Motors is unable to supply a
letter formalizing the agreement because such a letter would have to come from
General Motors Headquarters and would involve liability which General Motors
is unwilling to accept.
Chairman Thompson opened the informal public hearing for public input.
Mr. Bill Kozlak, 1550 St. Croix Circle, introduced himself as the owner of Jax
restaurant located adjacent to the subject property on the south. Mr. Kozlak
stated that he favors the proposed reuse of the former Holiday Motor Hotel
property based on his opinion that the proponents are proposing the best
possible use for a difficult piece of property. Mr. Kozlak admitted that
Holiday Lane is a narrow street but pointed out that all traffic on the street
is destination traffic rather than through traffic. Mr. Kozlak aske� that
Planning Commissioners note that he is advocating the continuation of com-
petition for his own business, but stated that he feels the proposed reuse of
the property is in the best interests of the City of Golden Valley.
Mr. Sidney Robin, 921 Toledo Avenue North, stated that he feels the proposal
represents good use of the property but that he has the following concerns:
1. Overextension of the property to serve too many uses.
2. Noise from the parking area on the north side of the site.
3. Access to Highway 100 from the service road.
Mrs. Sandra Robin, 921 Toledo Avenue North, stated that she is interested in
assurance that the hedge screening the north property line will remain and
stated that she would like to see the possibility of a trail . Mrs. Robin
added that she also is concerned about the number of parking spaces located on
the north side of the site and the possible noise from the parking.
Chairman Thompson closed the informal public hearing.
It was moved by Commissioner Prazak, seconded by Commissioner Forster and
carried unanimously to recommend City Council approval of the Preliminary
Design Plan of PUD #42, North Lilac Drive Addition, based on the finding that
the proposal is the best possible use of the subject existing buildings and
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accepting the proposed variances as necessary to reuse of the existing
buildings. The recommendation for approval is subject to the following
conditions:
1. Posting of no parking on the entire Holiday Lane street fron-
tage along the subject site.
2. Provision for protection to the satisfaction of the City
Engineer of an exposed portion of watermain.
3. Posting of fire lanes as recommended by the City Fire Marshal .
4. Extension of the sprinkler system in the newer portion of the
restaurant/motel building on Lot 1 to the older portion of the
building and installation of a sprinkler system in the two
story building on Lot 3.
5. Preparation of a drainage plan acceptable to the City Engineer.
6. Conclusion of access and maintenance agreements for joint
parking areas to be approved by the City Attorney prior to
approval of the PUD General Plan of Development.
7. Residential use only in conjunction with office use and not �s
a separate use in the residential/office condominium buildings
on Lots 2 and 3.
VI. Report on City Council Meeting - July 5, 1983
Commissioner Forster provided the Planning Commission with a report on the
July 5, 1983 City Council meeting.
VII. Update on Valley Square Redevelopment Project
Chairman Thompson provided the Planning Commission with a report on the
progress of the Valley Square Redevelopment Project.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:55 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
David Thompson, Chairman Margaret eppik, ecretary