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MINUTES OF THE GOLDEN VALLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION
October 28, 1991
A regular meeting of the Planning Commission was held at the Golden Valley City
Hall, Council Chamber, 7800 Golden Valley Road, Golden Valley, Minnesota. The
meeting was called to order by Chair McAleese at 7:03p.m.
Those present were: Groger, Johnson, Kapsner, McAleese, McCracken-Hunt and
Prazak; absent was Lewis. Also present-were Mark Grimes, Director of Planning
and Development; Beth Knoblauch, City Planner and Mary Dold, Secretary.
I. Approval of Minutes - September 23, 1991
MOVED by Kapsner, seconded McCracken-Hunt and motion carried unanimously to
approve the September 23, 1991 as submitted.
II. Informal Public Hearing - Amendment to Conditional Use Permit No.51-O1
Applicant: Laurence F. LeJeune (Carousel Automobiles)
Address: 8989 Wayzata Blvd., Golden Valley, Pinnesota
Request: Amend CUP 51-01 to allow for the construction of an addi-
tion of 1,500 sq.ft. to the west side of the existing
building
Chair McAleese asked staff to give a brief summary of the proposed change. Beth
Knoblauch, City Planner, stated a CUP was approved for Carousel Automobiles last
Spring for an addition of office space and a customer service area. The soil
around the building was found to be in poor condition and would be quite expen-
sive to remedy. The applicant is requesting an amendment to the CUP for an
office addition only to the west side of the existing building. On-site parking
is more than adequate for this addition which is smaller than the one proposed by
the original CUP. Staff recommendations on this amended CUP are similar to the
recommendations made on the original CUP.
Jon Hansen, representing LeJeune Investments, came before the Commissioners to
answer questions. Commissioner Prazak asked what plans LeJeune had for the new
addition. Mr. Hansen commented that LeJeune Investments would be moving into
this space from their present offices in downtown Minneapolis. There would be
two restrooms in the addition.
Commissioner Groger asked about the soil testing. Mr. Hansen commented that the
building sits on a peat bog and constructing pilings to put a one-story addition
on would be less costly than a two-story addition as approved by the original
CUP.
Chair McAleese opened the informal public hearing. Hearing no one Chair McAleese
closed the informal public hearing.
MOVED by Kapsner, seconded by Johnson and motion carried unanimously to recommend
approval to the City Council to amend Conditional Use Permit 51-01 to allow for
the construction of an addition of 1,500 sq.ft. to the west side of the existing
building and to acknowledge staff's Factors of Consideration and Recommendations.
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III. Informal Public Hearing - Planned Unit Development No. 60
Applicant: Affordable Suburban Apartment Partnership (ASAP)/Housing
and Redevelopment Authority (HRA) of Golden Valley
Address: Former Ewald Dairy Site (Xerxes and Golden Valley Road)
Request: Consider a request for a Planned Unit Development (PUD)
to allow for a 10 unit rentl townhome development to be
constructed on the former Ewald Dairy site
Chair McAleese asked staff to give a summary of the request for a PUD. Mark
Grimes, Director of Planning and Development commented that the reason for the
co-application between the ASAP and the Golden Valley HRA is because the HRA is
owner of the property which was purchased from Ewald Dairy in the early 1980's.
The HRA has conditionally designated ASAP as developer of the site.
The proposal by ASAP i s to bui 1 d 10 rental townhome units on the site which i s
about 1.08 acres in size. These would be rental townhomes for at least the first
15 years of the project's life. The income limitations are for families with a
50q of the median income of the Metropolitan area. At this point in time that
figure is around $25,000 for a family of four. The property is currently zoned
residential and is made up of six single family lots that vary in size. The
property is designated on the Comprehensive Plan for single family/low density
uses. The construction of this project would not change the overall character
since the area is fairly low density.
Mr. Grimes reviewed his memo with the Commissioners. He talked about prior
development plans by Monson/Ueland Architects. The plan was accepted by the HRA
in the early 1980's. It was Mr. Grimes understanding that a neighborhood group
met with Monson/Ueland and did come to some kind of agreement on the 10 townhome
units that would be built on the site. The project was not built due to the ina-
bility of Monson/Ueland and the HRA to reach agreement.
Mr. Schatzlein came to the City several years ago looking for sites where he
could develop affordable, large-family units. Last year, the HRA designated Mr.
Schatzlein as conditional developer by resolution with several conditions.. The
conditional agreement between the HRA and Schatzlein is that the HRA would donate
the land and utility work on the site in order to make the development feasible.
Further comments by Mr. Grimes were as follows:
Density. This is typical townhome density when looking at a little less than 10
units an acre. The Housing Finance Agency, who has these kinds of units
throughout the State of Minnesota, has told Mr. Schatzlein they are looking at
approximately 2.3 children per unit -- that would be a little over four to five
people per unit -- or about 45 - 50 people on the site.
Traffic. The City Engineer estimates anywhere from 7 to 10 trips per unit, per
day would be generated from this development. There is good access off of Xerxes
Avenue so stacking should not be a problem at the intersection of Xerxes and
Golden Valley Road.
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Parking. Mr. Schatzlein revised his original parking plan adding one additional
space to each unit. Three parking spaces should be adequate for visitor and
resident parking. The Minnesota Housing Finance Agency (MHFA) who will provide
long term financing for the townhomes, also believes that three spaces per unit
is more than adequate.
Landscaping. At this time a final landscaping plan is not required. The prelim-
inary site plan shows landscaping emphasized on the west, east and north sides
of the site. The staff would like to see more on the west end adjacent to the
single family homes. Also, the south and north ends could use some additional
landscaping.
Grading. The plan is to have the site graded so most of the water drains on to
Xerxes Avenue. Any plan must be reviewed and approved by the City Engineer.
Retaining walls along the west and north property lines look as though they are
not necessary. It will be looked at further when plans are more fully developed
to see if a retaining wall is needed.
Utilities. Utilities for the site will have to be extended up Golden Valley Road
to the east and this would be a cost the HRA would bear.
Environmental. A 10,000 gallon fuel tank has been removed from the site and a
Phase I environmental study had been done. Findings have shown that no further
environmental problems are anticipated on the site.
Playground Fencing. Staff suggests fencing for the playground along Golden
Valley Road.
Maintenance of Buildings. It is the intention of ASAP to be the ones to maintain
these units. The Housing Finance Agency requires a large reserve fund set aside
for maintenance.
Setbacks. The City tries to have all applicants meet setback requirements which
is 35 feet from streets and a rear yard setback of 20% of lot depth. As shown on
the plan, both the north and south buildings are less than the 35 foot setback.
The Housing Task Force study calls for the City to look for different types of
housing opportunities for lower and moderate income families. This is an oppor-
tunity for the City to get involved with and encourage this kind of development.
Recommendation of staff is to approve this development request with several con-
ditions: 1) Parking be increased, 2) tot lot area be fenced, 3) the landscape
plan be presented emphasizing landscape material along the west, south and north
property line and 4) the final grading plan be approved by the City Engineer.
Commissioner McCracken-Hunt asked about the period of time these units will
remain rental. Mr. Grimes commented because Federal Tax Credits will help
finance this project, rental units have to remain affordable for 15 years.
Bill Schatzlein introduced his partner, Barb Barry and their architect, Wilt
Berger. Mr. Schatzlein talked about the timing of the project, the request for
additional parking spaces from staff, management of the units and why they are a
non-profit organization. He reviewed the revised parking plan and the building
plan.
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Commissioner McCracken-Hunt asked Mr. Schatzlein about day-to-day management.
Mr. Schatzlein commented that a person would live on site who would take care of
day-to-day operations. Someone would be hired for yard work and snow removal
and Mr. Schatzlein would be on-site two or three days a week. There is a budget
set aside, which is reviewed by the Minnesota Housing Finance Agency, to make
sure maintenance and improvements can be done.
Commissioner Groger asked how tenants would be obtained. Mr. Schatzlein com-
mented that ASAP would go through the normal channels of advertising.
Commissioner McCracken-Hunt asked if any of the units were designed to be
accessible. Mr. Schatzlein commented that none of these units are handicapped
accessible because stairs are needed to access both levels of the units.
Commissioner Groger stated his concern about the drainage to the west. Mr.
Berger commented drainage to the west of the proposed building, where sodded,
would drain naturally as it does now. Slopes would be retained as much as
possible. All surface areas would drain naturally through the driveway to
Xerxes.
Commissioner Johnson asked if ASAP managed any other affordable housing proper-
ties. Mr. Schatzlein commented that he manages a six-unit townhome at 140-150
6th Ave. NE.
Chair McAleese opened the informal public hearing.
Wayne Detuncq, 1830 Glenwood Pkwy., commented about the history of his neighbor-
hood. There is an absentee landlord to the rear of his home and does not want
renters in his neighborhood. He feels there is a resurgence of the neighborhood.
He was on original committee working with staff to design the Ewald site. The
committee never envisioned low income housing but two or three single family
dwellings. Mr. Detuncq's point is having low income people on a high density
area would not work. Does not want an absentee landlord.
Steve Erickson, 1812 York Avenue No., feels this proposal does not fit on this
site. Talked about the fill on the site and it not being clean. He is concerned
about children riding bikes on the streets and about runoff on the proposed site.
Feels the neighborhood is going back to single family residential and this is the
way the area wants it. He feels present staff has not worked with the neighbor-
hood and has changed what was originally planned for the area.
Earline Estes, 1645 Xerxes Ave. No., represents a block club on Xerxes Avenue.
The club wants to know what dollar figure means affordable housing and if an
environmental study for pollution has been done. Her group is concerned with
traffic on Xerxes Avenue, drainage and flooding at the bottom of the hill. They
want to know what happens to the property after 15 years and who is going to
manage and be responsible for this site.
Robin Bednarz, 1926 Glenwood Pkwy., believes that this neighborhood is in a
buffer zone. Many residents have put a lot of money into homes and have a
vested interest in staying in the neighborhood. She feels the neighborhood has
been ignored by the City of Golden Valley and the City does not know what is
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happening in the area. Neighbors do not want rental property. She feels the
maximum number of persons per unit suggested by ASAP will be violated and is
concerned with the tot lot. Some residents feel this is a done deal.
Mary Snyder, 3026 Golden Valley Road, worries about children playing in the
streets. She questions whether there is not a better use for this area.
Chair McAleese commented on a few questions from the public. Concerning staff
not working with residents this time around on the new project, Chair McAleese
commented that this situation is different. The developer came to the City with
a proposal rather than the City soliciting a proposal. Some one was concerned
about this project being a done deal -- Chair McAleese stated that the
Commissioners have not talked among themselves on this proposal and it is not a
done deal.
The applicant, Mr. Schatzlein responded to the following questions.
Absentee landlord. Someone would be living on the site to manage the day-to-day
operation an to answer questions from neighbors. Mr. Schatzlein will be on
site several times a week. The MHFA will come out to inspect the property
from time to time.
What is affordable housing. Rents are controlled. Tenant must be able to
a or a certain percentage of his/her income (i.e. 30q) in order to rent.
These units will be rented to people who do not exceed the 50go median income
limit which is $25,000 for a family of four. The rent will be approximately
$600/mo. plus utilities.
Turnover of ownership of property. The developer signs a development agreement
wit t e c,ty an t ere ore t e property would revert to the City if the project
was not built. The MHFA has first mortgage on the property and would find a new
manager after completion. The MHFA checks each developer out just like a bank
checks out a prospective home buyer to make sure they can afford the project
financially.
What happens to the property after 15 years. These units could continue as ren-
taT housing at mar et rate o rent or could be converted to sale units. Mr.
Grimes commented this proposal is for a Planned Unit Development (PUD). The
property is not platted for owner sale but a subdivision could be done for con-
dominium sale. The owner would have to come before the City for any changes to the
PUD Permit.
Chair McAleese asked Mr. Grimes for comments on the following:
Concern for density on the property. The neighborhood is single family, about
t ree units per acre. rom a townhome perspective, he doesn't think 10 units
per acre is that out of the ordinary for this kind of development. This is the
same density as approved by the HRA in 1982 only those were for owner occupied
units. He feels there is not a significant difference between plans previously
presented and the plans presented tonight.
Drainage. Mr. Grimes stated that the development cannot create any new drainage
onto the existing properties.
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Fire hydrants. This plan will be reviewed with the Fire Marshal. If necessary,
i~ re fiy~rants will be added.
Pollution Study. A Phase I study was done and no pollution was. found on the
site t at wou warrant additional testing.
Excavation. Mr. Schatzlein will have to do soil borings before building and
wi'fT-~eviewed at that time. He would like assurance that there is a project
before he starts soil work due to high costs.
Traffic. There will be approximately 7 to 10 trips per unit per day. The City
ngL~i er does not feel this will have a significant impact on the local street
system.
Why is project proposed for this site. This land was purchased with Federal CDBG
monies to promote re eve opment an housing projects and felt this kind of pro-
ject would be consistent with the kinds of things the federal government said
they want to see developed. There are very few areas in Golden Valley available
for housing development.
Park land for housing. Residents have very strong-views on using park land for
of er in s o eve opment. Mr. Grimes .doubts that the City Council would ever
reduce the amount of parkland in the City.
Davi d Asti n, 1832 York Avenue No. , talked about the neighbors keeping the area
up and that it is a culturally diverse neighborhood. He feels that problems in
the neighborhood are caused by renters and absentee landlords. He does not want
the City to put more of a burden on his neighborhood by putting in rental
property.
Allen Chamberlain, 1922 Glenwood Ave., asked Golden Valley police the best way to
control crime. They commented, the number one thing is to have no renter occu-
pied housing in the neighborhood and people in the neighborhood should have a
stake in their property.
Jay Galfus, 1814 York Avenue No., commented that he came to Golden Valley
because it was a quiet, residential area and this proposal would change this
situation.
Rochelle Becker, 1922 Xerxes Ave., Minneapolis, moved into this neighborhood
because it was a single family residential area and she wants to keep the area
to remain single family.
Tina Kelly, 1800 York Avenue No., talked about the rental property near her
residence and being bothered by summer time parties. She said because of all the
cars parked there it is difficult to get in and out because York is a narrow
street.
John Fitze, 1828 York Avenue No., wanted to know how short the setback would be
on the development and who will be around to control the number of cars parked
at each development. He is also concerned about the number of children per unit
in this development. He would be in favor of having "Habitat for Humanity" or
another organization like this to put homes on this site.
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Jerry Lindskog, 1717 York Avenue No., is proud of the neighborhood and is asking
that rental units not be put on this property.
Bob Monroe, 1831 York Avenue No., is concerned with the amount of children in
the neighborhood and no place for them to play. Mr. Monroe is also concerned
with drainage and erosion of the sloped area and environmental dumping of oil
from cars previously taken place.
Steve Erickson, 1812 York Avenue No., is concerned about the number of persons in
each unit. He feels this development would not be progress in their area and
the neighborhood would like to see something else on this land.
Robin Bednarz, 1926 Glenwood Pkwy., believes this is an "ify" spot because of
the difficulty in finding developers. She would like to see this site developed
with government money and not gamble with taxpayer money.
John Fitze, 1828 York Avenue No., commented to Mr. Schatzlein's statement that
he would be on the site three or four times a week and neighbors would be
watching the development for any problems. Mr. Fitze commented he does not want
to monitor this neighborhood and worries about property values going down.
Chair McAleese asked staff and the applicants to respond to previous questions.
Setbacks. Mr. Grimes commented the rear yard setback of a normal multiple
am~i y~Fiousi ng district woul d be 20% of the 1 of depth . Thi s site plan, which
i s not i n a mul ti pl a family housing district, shows the setback to be 15 to 20
feet which is less than the required 20q. This is a P.U.D. request so variances
can be made without going to the BZA. The P.U.D. ordinance states that there
can be give and takes in order for the City to benefit by providing the kind of
housing noted in the "Housing Plan".
How are parking requirements developed. There is normally a parking requirement
or mu tip a ami y u m ts. i t e new revised plan there are three parking
spaces per unit as set out in the multiple family housing district.
Minimum of two children - maximum of four children. Mr. Schatzlein checked with
t o A w o commente tat t o average num er o children in a development of
this sort was 2.3. From a management standpoint up to four children will be
allowed.
Environmental roblem. Mark Grimes commented on the pollution across the street
stating t is eve opment was prior to the environmental problems the City is
encountering today where studies need to be done i.e. Phase I, II and III. The
same laws were not in existence when Project for Pride for Living did the home
across the street and would not be in the situation they are in. Beth
Knobluach, City Planner, commented that a Phase I study will not always find
everything and if pollution is found on the site, everything would stop.
Rev. Thompson, 1930 Xerxes Avenue No., feels there are some misquotes about the
Federal Regulations on how many children can be in each unit.
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Steve Erickson, 1812 York Avenue No. feels there would be more expenses bringing
water to the site than the City expects.
Chair Prazak closed the informal public meeting.
Commissioner McCracken-Hunt agreed conceptually with the fact that the City
needs rental housing. and needs to provide this option for families. She is
bothered by no place for children to play -- would like to see the plan without
the middle units and substitute the play area there and is also concerned with
the density of the persons on this site. She is against the proposal.
Commissioner Prazak is concerned about the developer turning over ownership of
property in years to come and to someone who is not as concerned with main-
taining the property. He feels this is not a bad proposal but there is too. much
on too small of a space.. He is against the proposal.
Commissioner Kapsner is satisfied with the traffic situation, drainage and
landscaping. He is concerned with the retaining wall to the .west and if one is
needed is sure one would be built. He feels that the City has an obligation to
provide housing and must continue to look for opportunities to provide such a
development as this. He is concerned about the density on this spot and is against
the proposal as is.
Commissioner Johnson was on the Housing Task Force and commented that the City is
looking for low to moderate income housing such as this. She is impressed with
the neighborhood residents and their concerns. She feels the neighbors are not
opposed to moderate income in their neighborhood but want someone to have a
vested interest in the land because they have spent so much time bettering their
own neighborhood. She is against this proposal.
Commission Groger feels the site is not attractive as is. He has no objection to
rental townhomes but concerned with the drainage situation to the west and ero-
sion. He feels there would be too much housing for this one acre site. He is
against the proposal.
Chair McAleese is opposed to the proposal. He was a member of the Housing Task
Force and feels this is the kind of proposal that is needed in Golden Valley.
He is concerned with children playing on Golden Valley Road and also feels that
this is the wrong neighborhood for rental housing. This proposal would change
the character of the neighborhood. He feels the density of this development is
too high for the site.
MOVED by McCracken-Hunt, seconded by Prazak and motion carried unanimously to
recommend to the City Council denial of the request a for Planned Unit Develop-
ment to allow for a 10 unit rental townhome development on the former Ewald Dairy
site.
IV. Reports on meetings of the Housing and Redevelopment Authority, Ci
ounce an Boar o oning Appea s
No reports were given.
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V. Other Business
No other business was presented.
VI. Adjournment
Chair McAleese adjourned the meeting at 9:55p.m.
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