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05-21-92 PC Minutes~.~ ~ I,~ ,i MINUTES OF THE GOLDEN VALLEY PLANNING COMMISSION May 21, 1992 A regular meeting of the Planning Commission was held at the Golden Valley City Hall, Council Chambers, 7800 Golden Valley Road, Golden Valley, Minnesota. The meeting was called to order by Vice-Chair Johnson at 7:05 PM. Those present were Commissioners Groger, Johnson, Kapsner, Lewis, Pentel and Prazak; Commissioner McAleese was absent. Also present were Mark Grimes, Director of Planning and Development; and Mary Dold, Administrative Secretary. Vice Chair Johnson welcomed new Commissioner Pentel to the Planning Commission. I. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - APRIL 13, 1992 MOVED by Kapsner and seconded by Lewis, and motion carried unanimously to approve the April 13th minutes as submitted. II. INFORMAL PUBLIC HEARING - PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDMENT - STANDARDS FOR R CUL- - A RE Mark Grimes, Director of Planning and Development, gave a brief summary of his staff report to the Planning Commission. The City Council approved the preliminary plat of "Garden Park" with the following two conditions: 1. An amendment to the Subdivision Code be approved to permit smaller diameter cul-de-sacs in certain circumstances; and 2. Direct the staff to initiate an amendment to the Subdivision Code that would allow smaller diameter cul-de-sacs in certain situations. Staff felt that a smaller cul-de-sac with a right-of-way diameter of 100' and a paved diameter of 90' is justifiable when the total length of the street is less than 190 feet (Code now requires 120 feet and 100 feet, respectively). The staff is proposing the following change by substituting it for the existing language in that paragraph: A cul-de-sac street shall be measured along its center line from a point in the extended line from the back of the curb line of the intersecting street of origin to the back of the curb line of the cul-de-sac at its closed end. If there is no curb, the measure- ment shall be made from the corresponding edge of the improved surface of the roadway. Maximum length of a cul-de-sac street shall be 500 feet. Except as provided hereinafter, each cul-de-sac shall have a closed end turnaround with an outside diameter of the improved roadway surface of at least 100 feet and a street right-of-way diameter of at least 120 feet. Golden Valley Planning Commission Minutes May 21, 1992 Page 2 Alternatively, if the proposed cul-de-sac street is 190 feet or less in length, the subdivider may apply for a reduced turnaround having an outside roadway diameter of at least 90 feet and a street right- of-way diameter of at least 100 feet. Since such reduction in size may increase the difficulty of street maintenance or fire prevention activities, the Director of Public Works or the Fire Marshall may require limitations regarding the type, placement or replacement of any structures or plantings to be located in or within 10 feet of the cul-de-sac right-of-way. Structures for purposes of this paragraph shall include fences, fire hydrants, light poles, mail boxes, utility boxes or poles, etc. The Director of Public Works may also impose additional limitations concerning the location and width of driveways accessing all lots with frontage on the reduced turnaround cul-de-sac street and, in no event may the width of a driveway exceed 50q of the width of the lot it accesses as measured at the roadway by extending the side lot lines to the back of the curb line. The staff believes that short cul-de-sac streets can be built smaller in dia- meter without reducing the City's ability to maintain the street or provide public safety access. However, the Public Works Director and Fire Chief do have the right to limit structures and the location of structures within 10 feet of the cul-de-sac right-of-way line. Also, driveway location may also be deter- mined as part of this amendment. Mr. Sirney commented that he would prefer a smaller paved diameter of 80' for short cul-de-sac streets. He would like to put in an "island" in the mi ddle of the 90 ft. paved area and will work with the Public Works Director to see if this could be done. Currently, the City does not have any of these "islands." Vice-Chair Johnson opened the informal public hearing. Seeing and hearing no one, Vice-Chair Johnson closed the informal public hearing. There was a unanimous consensus by all the commissioners (Pentel not commenting) that the 90' diameter is appropriate. MOVED by Lewis and seconded by Prazak and motion carried unanimously, to recom- mend to the City Council, approval of an amendment to the Subdivision Code, Section 12.20, Subd. 2(I), regarding the length and width of cul-de-sac streets. III. INFORMAL PUBLIC HEARING - PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDMENT - FLOOD PLAN AND 0 RIC Mark Grimes gave a brief review of his memo to the Planning commission. He also reviewed maps showing homes in the flood zone. The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is requiring the changes of all cities that are a part of the National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP). If the City does not have a flood zone ordinance, homeowners cannot get flood insurance. The MN Department of Natural Resources (DNR) wrote the City in November of 1991, requiring several changes to the City's Floodplain Ordinance. - ,~, Golden Valley Planning Commission Minutes May 21, 1992 Page 3 Commissioner Prazak asked what the implications would be for a homeowner lying within the flood zone. Mr. Grimes said the DNR originally asked the City to adopt an ordinance that would allow no rebuilding of structures if their use is discontinued or destroyed to 50go of current market value. Commissioner Lewis asked if what the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources presented for change in the November 6, 1991 letter must be accepted by the City. Mr. Grimes commented that the requests by the DNR is the letter of November 6, 1991, are acceptable except for #6 which would have a substantia l impact on the homeowner lying within the flood zone. Commissioner Pentel commented that she would like the first sentence of Subd. 11.606(2) retained and added to the revised #6 from the November 6, 1991 letter. She also commented about the #9 from the November 6, 1991 letter relating to Subd. 15A(1) of the existing Floodplain Ordinance. Mark Grimes said this would have to be changed except when special permits are issued. Structures can only be built within the flood fringe area. The flood fringe will have to be defined. Commissioner Prazak asked where a flood fringe was located. Mr. Grimes said it is on the edge of the floodplain. Mark Grimes talked about flood fringe and .that it will have to be defined prior to the City Council review of the Ordinance. Also, it was suggested that public informational meeting be held for the people along Bassett Creek. A represen- tative from the Bassett Creek Management Commission should be invited to explain what the ordinance changes mean. Mr. Grimes commented that after the City Council approval, the revised plan will be sent back to the DNR for their final approval. The staff recommends that the Planning Commission approve the changes suggested by the DNR in their letter dated November 6, 1991, with the exception of adding the first sentence from Subd. 11.606(2) to the revised #6 and modify #9 to con- form with #6. MOVED by Kapsner and seconded by Lewis, and motion carried unanimously to recommend to the City Council approval of the proposed ordinance amendment along with the modifications to #6 and #9 (to conform with #6) of the November 6, 1991 letter of the DNR. IV. REPORTS ON MEETINGS OF THE HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, CITY Jean Lewis gave a brief summary of the BZA meeting of May 12, 1992. Warren Kapsner gave a brief summary of the City Council meeting of April 21, 1992. 1 Golden Valley Planning Commission Minutes May 21, 1992 Page 4 V. OTHER BUSINESS Mark Grimes told the commissioners there would be no June 8th meeting due to the lack of an agenda. He briefly talked about the progress of Habitat and groundbreaking ceremonies. And lastly, he asked if any commissioners. were interested in attending the Commission .Dinner. VI. ADJOURNMENT Vice Chair Johnson adjourned the meeting at 8:35 PM. n ewes, ecretary ~.. ... 1 1