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Regular Meeting of the
Golden Valley Planning Commission
October 27, 1997
A regular meeting of the Planning Commission was held at the Golden Valley
City Hall, Council Chambers, 7800 Golden Valley Road, Golden Valley,
Minnesota, on Monday, October 27, 1997. The meeting was called to order by
Chair Pentel at 7pm.
Those present were Chair Pentel and Commissioners Groger, Kapsner,
Martens, and Prazak; absent were: Johnson and McAleese. Also present were
Mark Grimes, Director of Planning and Development, Beth Knoblauch, City
Planner and Mary Dold, Recording Secretary.
Approval of Minutes -September 22, 1997
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MOVED by Groger, seconded by Prazak and motion carried unanimously to
approve the September 22, 1997 minutes with the correction of several
typographical errors and the following language change found. on:
Page 8, First Line. Change "She commented that the. commission was aware of
the solid wall" to "She commented that the commission was aware that the
building would present a solid wall around the recreational space."
II. Informal Public Hearing -- Minor Subdivision (Lot Consolidation)
Applicant: LOGIS (Local Government Information Systems)
Address: Tracts A and B, Registered Land Survey (RLS) No. 331
(Tract A address is 5800 Duluth Street)
Purpose: To consolidate Tracts A and B which would allow LOGIS to
construct atwo-story, 14,000 sq.ft. office building to be used
as its headquarters.
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Director of Planning and Development, Mark Grimes told the commission that
LOGIS (providing computer and information services to a consortium of local
governments) is looking to construct a 2-story, 14,000 sq.ft. building in a more
centralized area in the Twin Cities. Grimes said the site which LOGIS has an
option to buy is on Duluth Street, directly across from the Bassett Creek Office
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Plaza and Byerly's. He reviewed the survey which showed the two lots, to be
consolidated, and briefly talked about the properties abutting the site. Grimes
told the commission that the proposed lots are currently zoned Business and
Professional Office and the Comprehensive Land Use Plan Map shows the
proposed lots guided for Business and Professional Office. Grimes said that
these lots would be a logical place for an office building(s). He continued to say
that both of the proposed lots are very small and buildings placed on each lot
would end up being quite small. He said that one building would create one
driveway on Duluth Street which is an advantage over the existing two lots each
having driveways. Grimes referred the commission to his memo of October 21
concerning "Conditions for Approval of Consolidation" and the
recommendations.
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Commissioner Martens asked staff if it would be appropriate to make
recommendations concerning the required variances. He commented on
condition one which states that the proposed subdivision must meet all the
requirements of the appropriate zoning district. City Planner Beth Knoblauch
said this condition is placed on subdivisions to ensure that new lots are capable
of meeting zoning code requirements when a building is constructed. Grimes
told the commission that the BZA addresses variances, which are not an issue
with this body.
Chair Pentel asked if the Planning Commission could place conditions on the
recommendation that the commission makes. Knoblauch said that because
there is a Planning Commission representative on the Board of Zoning Appeals,
this body could pass concerns onto that representative. Martens said that he
would like to pursue this avenue.
Chair Pentel said that she visited the site and asked staff whether the grove of
prairie oaks could be saved, which are located in the area of the proposed
ponding. Grimes said City Forester, AI Lundstrom, confirmed that there was a
very nice grove of prairie oaks on the western lot. Grimes told the commission
that he would have discussions with City Engineer Fred Salsbury to see if the
pond could be made smaller in order to save the stand of trees. Grimes noted
that an issue arises on whether it is environmentally correct to protect the water
quality of the creek or save the prairie oaks. Chair Pentel pointed out the
cohesiveness of the trees which flow along the creek all the way down to St.
Croix Avenue. Grimes told the commission that this was an issue that staff could
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Commissioner Kapsner asked if MnDOT, whose site is located to the northeast
of the proposed site, has ponding. Grimes said no, that ponding is a recent
requirement of the State. Kapsner asked staff if ponding could be tied to both
sites and Grimes commented that an even bigger pond would be required.
Pentel asked what elevation the parking lot would be constructed at and what
elevation is the base of the building. Grimes wasn't sure if the applicant had
figured that out. Grimes said that the parking area would be approximately five
feet above the road and there is a concern to maintain a safe driveway due to
elevation differences.
Grimes commented on an additional condition concerning an easement for an
existing trail along the west side of the property. He said that these 50 feet are in
the shoreland area so it would not affect the proposed buyer of the property.
Grimes also said that the City never had an easement for this trail and a
dedication should be done at this time.
Commissioner Martens said that the plans depict no dimensions and questioned
whether 50 feet is sufficient for the way it is located. Grimes reviewed, on the
survey, where the 50 foot line would be. Grimes said that he meant to say the
easement would start 50 feet from the top of the bank of the creek and not from
the property line which lies in the middle of Bassett Creek. He also reviewed the
survey where the easement was located and said that Park and Rec Director
Rick Jacobson felt that the area shown was sufficient for the trail. Martens had
some question whether the trail would fit in this area and Grimes commented
that the applicant may have shown preliminary estimates of where the trail would
fit in.
Grimes said that the City is not anticipating anymore right-of-way being taken by
Hennepin County for the widening of Duluth Street. He talked about Tract E,
which is located along Duluth Street on the east side of the proposed site.
Mike Garris, Executive Director for LOGIS addressed the issue of the grove of
trees saying that LOGIS would like to preserve as many trees on the site as
possible. He said the building would be used 100% for office and it would be
beneficial for esthetic purposes. Mr. Garris talked about the site being difficult to
work with because of its size, shape and abutting Bassett Creek. He said that
LOGIS would like to remain in the area and this location would put it centrally
located to all the other cities which whom it works with. Garris believes this
project would have a good impact on the community.
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Chair Pentel asked staff what the parking requirement is for this site. Grimes
said that in the Business and Professional Office zoning district the parking
requirement is one space for every 250 sq.ft. of office space. Grimes noted
there would be more parking on the site than required, and LOGIS would like
more parking because of the training sessions which they hold.
Chair Pentel opened the informal public hearing, seeing and hearing no one,
Chair Pentel closed the informal public hearing.
Commissioner Kapsner informed the commission that his company, Rapid
Graphics and Mailing does work with some of the cities that belong to the LOGIS
consortium, but did not believe that there was any conflict of interest because of
his work.
Commissioner Groger believes that it makes sense to consolidate the two lots
because they are virtually unbuildable by themselves. He also commented that
he lives near the proposed site and has been a part of a neighborhood group
who has cleaned up the area. Groger said he was happy to see a proposed
development for this site, whether it be LOGIS or some other development.
Commissioner Prazak commented on the setbacks noting that Bassett Creek
would be a good buffer on the west and that there appears to be more green
space along Duluth Street because of the right-of-way. Prazak is in favor of the
proposal.
Commissioner Martens believes that the plan is a good one and that the use is
good and appropriate for the site. Martens said when taking into account
Bassett Creek and the right-of-way issues, the variances being requested are
appropriate and realistic. He did comment on a way to reduce the front setback
along Duluth, and by cutting the curb back along the east side of the building the
landscaping on the east side could be increased. He asked staff to take these
comments into consideration.
Chair Pentel also commented that the lot consolidation makes sense. She said
that she would leave it up to the Board of Zoning Appeals to decide upon the
variances needed to develop the site. Pentel would like to see a memo from the
City Forester concerning his views on the grove of prairie oaks. She said she is
aware that the City does not have a preservation ordinance for trees.
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MOVED by Kapsner, seconded by Groger and motion carried unanimously to
recommend approval to the City Council for a lot consolidation of Tracts A
(known as 5800 Duluth Street) and B, Registered Land Survey No. 331 with the
following conditions:
1. All necessary permits for.access to the site are received from
Hennepin County.
2. If requested by Hennepin County, additional right-of-way be dedicated
for Duluth Street.
3. At the cost of the owner, the City Attorney shall prepare a title opinion
prior to final plat approval.
4. The City's forester shall submit a memo to staff regarding the grove of
trees before the City Council meeting of November 18, 1997.
5. The applicant. will provide an easement, as necessary, to the City on
the west side of the property for trail purposes.
III. Informal Public Hearing -- Amendment to the Valley Square
Redevelopment Plan
City Planner Knoblauch told the commission that what staff is proposing is a
"quick patch" to the redevelopment plan. She noted that Area B was the only
major area of the Valley Square left to be developed. Knoblauch said that the
preliminary plans are being completed so a developer can be found for the site.
She also said that staff is requesting from the Legislature an extension of the
Valley Square Tax Increment District, either by extending the time period for
Area B itself for 10 years or the entire Valley Square area for five years.
Knoblauch said that the extension would allow the City to acquire enough tax
increment to pay off the amount of improvements being planned.
Knoblauch explained that the existing plan says that there shall be no residential
development in Area B; there are residential units being proposed for this area.
She said that staff believes that it is necessary, at this time, to make some small
amendments to the plan as an act of faith so that the necessary steps for
development can continue. Knoblauch told the commission that the entire plan
would need to be review next year. She reviewed minor changes to the Plan.
Chair Pentel opened the informal public hearing; seeing and hearing no one,
Chair Pentel closed the informal public hearing.
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Chair Pentel noted that she is a member of the Area B Task Force and believes
that it is appropriate to have the plan match what is being asked for on Area B.
She also believes that extending the Tax Increment District would be a great
benefit for getting the sort of benefit the HRA is seeking on this site.
Commissioner Prazak asked if the HRA had made requests for submittal of
proposals. Knoblauch said not at this. point. She continued to say that the HRA
has submitted a grant application through the Livable Communities program to
the Metropolitan Council and once the HRA knows that this will go through, and
the district has been extended, then staff will be ready to go out and seek a
developer for Area B.
Chair Pentel said that there is another piece that will go before the HRA
concerning what the Area B Task Force wanted to see regarding pedestrian
connections, which is a bit out of Area B, but a way to bring cohesiveness to the
whole district.
Commissioner Kapsner asked staff if they knew the amount of funds that may be
awarded to the HRA through the Livable Communities grant. Grimes
commented that the application was for $750,000 which would be for a number
of different elements, one of those being underground parking. Pentel said that
some of the other elements were for amenities along Bassett Creek and
pedestrian walkways to get people into Area B.
MOVED by Groger, seconded by Prazak and motion carried unanimously to
recommend to the City Council approval of the proposed amendments to the
Valley Square Plan.
IV. Reports on Meetings of the Housing and Redevelopment Authority,,
City Council and Board of Zoning Appeals
Director Grimes briefly reported that the BZA requested that Hennepin County
revised its plan to alleviate the variance on Nevada Avenue, which it did.
Commissioner Groger reported on a City Council item from October 7, 1997
regarding Hennepin. County's proposal for an amendment to a C.U.P. for the
property located at 7151 Madison Avenue West.
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V. Other Business
A. Continued Workshop Session on Technical Background for the
Land Use Plan
The commission spent some time reviewing the section on "Plan Elements".
Chair Pentel asked if the Water Resources Management section could mention
sustainable development initiatives. Pentel briefly talked about resources to be
considered for inclusion in the Comp Plan and questions whether there would be
mapping of plan elements. City Planner Knoblauch responded that this would
be done through the Water Management Resources section.
The commission continued its review of the planning requirements discussing
the ability to connect planning with zoning and the appropriateness of changing
the Comp Plan to satisfy someone's good ideas.
Commissioner Martens briefly talked about the I-394 corridor and minimum lot
sizes. He also talked about the submittal of plans by developers and having
them include as part of their submittal package elevation, landscaping and civil
engineering drawings. Commission Groger commented that the review of
landscaping and building plans are under the jurisdiction of the Board of Building
Review and believes that the commission does receive enough information for
review. Grimes asked if the commission would like staff to check with other
municipalities to verify what plans are included for Planning Commission review.
Groger commented that he does not feel inclined to add a burden of expense or
additional paper work to those submitting plans for review. He does not believe
there is any advantage to seeing building elevations, complete landscaping and
engineering plans presented to the commission. Pentel commented that she
believes that the commission did not have enough information, when reviewing
Area C, regarding landscaping, elevations, required variances. Martens
suggested that the commission keep an eye on future proposals. Knoblauch
commented that in the past the commission has added, by conditions or
recommendations, that applicants supply additional plans.
The commission agreed that it would not need to review again the technical
portion of the Land Use Plan.
City Planner Knoblauch suggested that the Planning Commission hold another
workshop session to continue its review. Staff set November 24, 1997 to
continue review of the Land Use Plan update after any informal public hearings
are held.
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B. Staff updated the commission on the following:
• GBC Partners is pursuing another piece of property in Golden Valley, which
would not require any City approvals
• Len Frame, Fluil]yne, has contacted the City regarding the expiration of his
approved variances for his vacant lot on the frontage road of Hwy. 55
• Covenant Manor will not be asked to help physically to clean up the park
area to the west of its building
• Hidden Lakes and the canoe launch and access to Twin Lake from the
single-family lots
• Minneapolis Crisis Nursery has not yet moved into its building on Glenwood
Avenue because they lack. the funds, at this time to complete the update to
the building. They are still planning to open at this site.
VI. Adjournment
Chair Pentel adjourned the meeting at 8:
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ilie Johr~s¢n; Secretary
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