10-11-99 PC Minutes
Minutes of the Golden Valley
Planning Commission
October 11, 1999
The regular meeting of the Planning Commission was held at the Golden Valley City Hall,
Council Chambers, 7800 Golden Valley Road, Golden Valley, MN. The meeting was called to
order by Chair Pentel at 7:00 P.M.
Those present were Chair Pentel, Commissioners Eck, Groger, Hoffman McAleese,
Rasmussen and ShaffeL Also present were Mark Grimes, Director of Planning and
Development and Beth Knoblauch, City Planner. (Note: The minutes of the meeting were
transcribed by Mary Dold, Planning Assistant, using the video recording of that night's meeting.)
I. Approval of Minutes -- September 27,1999
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MOVED by McAleese, seconded by Eck and motion carried unanimously to approve the
September 27, 1999 minutes as submitted.
II. Informal Public Hearing -- Conditional Use Permit 99-78
Applicant:
The Luther Company Limited Partnership
Address:
9220 Olson Memorial Highway, Golden Valley, MN
Request:
To use the existing building, along with the construction of a 7,260
sq.ft. addition, as a collision center, repairing and repainting
damaged vehicles, and for administrative offices.
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Director of Planning and Development, Mark Grimes, presented a report on a proposal of
converting the former Golden Valley Lanes, located at 9220 Olson Memorial Highway, to a
collision center that would repair and repaint damaged vehicles. Grimes commented that staff
has talked with the City Attorney regarding the proposed use. It was determined that a collision
center which repairs and repaints damaged vehicles could operate in the Commercial Zoning
District by Conditional Use as found under the auto repair shop category. The site does not
have direct access from Olson Memorial Highway. It abuts Golden Valley Road to the north, the
National Camera Exchange to the west, an insurance company on the east and Olson
Memorial Highway on the south. Grimes said that the zoning map is essentially the same as the
Land Use Plan map identifying it as commercial. He commented that the area on the north side
of the proposal is for high-density housing. This is affordable housing in this area and the City
would like to maintain this use for multi-family housing.
At this time there is an 18,000 sq.ft. building on the site. It lacks landscaping, has no curb and
gutter and most of the remainder of the site is parking area. The applicant would like to add an
addition of approximately 7,260 sq.ft. The existing building and new addition would house nine
service bays, a painting prep area, spray booths, paint room, administrative offices, an
estimating area and a car wash.
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Grimes reviewed a colored site plan noting where customer parking would be located and
where employee and vehicles waiting for repair would be parked. He commented that 51
parking spaces are required; four parking spaces for each service bay and one parking space
per three employees. The applicant is proposing tandem parking on the north side of the
building. If this tandem parking were eliminated, the applicant would still be providing adequate
parking per city code. Grimes noted that the Borton Volvo site also uses tandem parking in their
display area. Grimes said that the Deputy Fire Marshal was asked to comment on the
proposed tandem parking and he did not have a concern with this type of parking. He added
that the building would be sprinkled and there is also access in and out of the building on the
east side.
Grimes commented that staff believes the biggest issues for this site are the setback issues.
He said that the Board of Zoning Appeals would need to address these issues. Grimes noted
that the existing building is too close to the west and south property line, the proposed building
and parking lot would encroach into the south property line; and the north parking lot would
encroach into the front setback along Golden Valley Road. He said staff is suggesting that the
most northern row of tandem parking be eliminated in order to maintain the 35 foot required
greenspace along Golden Valley Road. Grimes said the applicant is proposing to place a berm
along Golden Valley Road, and in addition, staff is requesting that a 6-foot wood fence be
placed around the north parking lot. He said there would also be a security gate at the entrance
of the north driveway where cars would be stored overnight.
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Grimes next addressed the environmental issues. He said staff has talked with AI Lundstrom,
the Environmental Technician, who commented that a Drainage, Grading and Erosion Control
plan would need to be submitted for the site. Mr. Lundstrom said a Tree Preservation Plan
would not need to be submitted since there are no trees being moved on the site. The applicant
is proposing to add some landscaping to the site and the landscaping would be reviewed by the
Board of Building Review. Grimes noted that water quality ponding is not being required
because the site does not meet the mandatory water quality ponding requirements of the
Bassett Creek Water Management Commission. Grimes commented that with this type of use
there are concerns regarding the smell of paint and other chemicals. He said that the use would
need to meet the standards of the EPAlPCA. Grimes also noted that lighting standards would
need to be met on the site.
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Grimes reviewed the ten factors for Consideration for a Conditional Use Permit as follows:
1. Demonstrated Need for the Use: The applicant has identified a need for this type of use
in the area.
2. Consistency with the Comprehensive Plan: The Comprehensive Plan Map identifies this
site and surrounding area for longer-term commercial use other than the high density
residential site directly across the street.
3. Effect on Property Values in the Area: The effect on property values can be debated
either way. Staff believes the berming and fencing, along with the update to the building,
should help address any negative effect.
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4. Effect of any Anticipated Traffic Generation Upon Current Traffic Flow and
Congestion in the Area: The hours of operation are from 7:00AM. to 6:00P.M. and the
number of projected vehicles to be taken in is approximately 40 per week. The anticipated
traffic is believed to be less than what was seen with the former Golden Valley Lanes
operation.
5. Effect on any Increase in Population: There will be no increase in population.
6. Increase in Noise Level: There can be noise associated with this use. Staff is suggesting
that all doors remain close except when vehicles are entering/existing the building.
7. Any Odor, Dust, Smoke, Gas, or Vibration Caused by the Use: Staff will need to review
the issue of odor and fumes. Grimes commented that looking. at the Lando Body Shop
(Boulevard Collission) located on Laurel and Louisiana, staff has not received any
comments regarding odor or noise.
8. Any Increase in Flies, Rats, or other Vermin on the area Caused by the Use: Staff is
not anticipating an increase in these rodents due to the use.
9. Visual Appearance of the Proposed Structure or Use: Staff noted that the building would
be getting an uplift, in that there would be berming, fencing and landscaping added to the
property.
10. Other Concerns Regarding the Use: Grimes commented that the applicant would need to
meet all the standards of the EPAlPCA
Grimes reviewed staff's recommendations for approval of the Conditional Use Permit as
follows:
1. No outdoor repair/painting may occur at any time. The doors of the facility shall remain
closed except when vehicles or equipment are taken into or out of the building.
2. An approved site plan become a part of the CUP approval. Staff is suggesting some
changes to the site regarding front yard setbacks that may change the proposed site plan.
Also the Board of Zoning Appeals shall approve any necessary variances, before final
approval is granted by the City Council.
3. The hours of operation shall be from 7:00AM. to 6:00P.M., Monday through Friday.
4. Where there is any question as to whether the repairs/spraying operation, ventilation
system, storage of chemicals, or other structural or mechanical details meet applicable
codes, the applicant shall, at its own expense, provide a report on the questioned item,
prepared by a qualified engineer or fire safety specialty organization acceptable to the Fire
Chief and Building Official.
5. A six-foot tall, wood fence shall be installed around the northern parking area for security of
the vehicles parked in this area.
6. Only those vehicles being served by the collision center may use the car wash.
7. Exterior lighting on the site shall be hooded so as to prevent spillage onto adjacent lots, and
shall be limited to security levels when the business is closed for the night. A lighting plan
must be reviewed by the Board of Building Review.
8. All other applicable loca', state and federal requirements shall be met.
9. Failure to comply with one or more of the above conditions shall be grounds for revocation
of the conditional use permit.
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Grimes told the Commission that Commissioner Groger had brought up the wording as found in
Section 11.30, Subd. 5 of City Code relative to the amount of horsepower being used within the
facility and was the applicant adhering to this section of code. Grimes said that this issue was
discussed with a staff person who was part owner in a body shop and it is not believed that this
operation would come close to using the above mentioned horsepower.
Commissioner Groger asked if the parking requirements were from the Commercial Zoning
District and questioned the one space per three employees. Grimes commented that this is the
requirement as found under service stations. Groger commented that this mimics an operation
of 9 to 5 where employees are there all the time and driving separately to work. Grimes again
commented that the applicant is meeting the requirements for parking as found in the code
under the Commercial Zoning District. Groger also questioned whether the parked cars waiting
to be worked on would not be considered outdoor storage. Grimes commented that this is not
considered to be outdoor storage because there would be about 40 cars being worked on and
they are continuously being moved in and out of the building. Groger commented that the
Planning Commission has reviewed other service stations and requested dumpsters and other e
items be place indoors, and again questioned whether these cars would not be considered
outdoor storage. Grimes commented that this may be an interpretation issue. He added this
issue had been discussed with the City Attorney who believes this is more temporary in nature.
Grimes noted that Boulevard Collision, on Laurel Avenue, does keep their cars indoors
overnight for security reasons. He suggested talking with the applicant to determine that if cars
being worked on will remain indoors overnight. Grimes added that because this use is permitted
by conditional use that the wood fence and berming would screen the vehicles from view. Chair
Pentel noted that the Commercial Zoning District does permit, by conditional use, outdoor
sales, including car lots, auto and equipment rentals.
Commissioner Eck questioned the classification of vehicles that sit outdoors at auto
dealerships. Pentel reviewed Subd. 5 of the Commercial Zoning District which addresses
outdoor storage. Groger said this subdivision is an interpretation call for the Planning
Commission.
Chair Pentel commented that Boulevard Collission has stacks on top of their building and the
renderings submitted for this use does not show stacks. Grimes commented that this operation
must be addressing the exhausting in a different manner, and suggested this issue be
addressed by the applicant.
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Commissioner McAleese questioned the notice procedure for this meeting and asked if the
notice went to the owner of the building, but not the tenants. Grimes commented that a notice
was tacked on to each bulletin board in each of the five buildings and additional notices were
left in each building. McAleese commented that staff went above and beyond what was
required.
Tim Q'Dougherty, representative for Luther Companies, addressed the Commission telling
them that Mr. Grimes gave a good synopsis of the proposal. He added that some of the site
plan design took into consideration the existing structure. Q'Dougherty commented that the
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proposal conforms to parking requirements and building setbacks to a degree that is feasible for
this project. The representative commented that screening was being provided along Golden
Valley Road that would help temper the appearance of the building on the north side. He
agreed with staffs recommendations, but to optimize the operation there must be tandem
parking on the north side. To give the tandem parking up could create some issues in the long
run.
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Pentel asked about the stacks on the top of the building. Mark Morcomb, Luther Company
Representative, commented that there would be stacks on the building. Pentel asked how
many stacks there would be. Morcomb commented that he did not know specifically, but
believed approximately six stacks. O'Dougherty said they would be similar to the Lando
Building, but would be located more toward the interior of the building, and there would not be
as many as the Lando building has. Shaffer asked if they would be located near the painting
prep area. O'Dougherty said that would be the only area they would be located in. Morcomb
showed on the site plan where they would be located. Eck asked with the berming and
landscaping along Golden Valley Road would the stacks be visible? O'Dougherty believed the
stacks would be visible. He added that it would be difficult to screen, and trying to screen the
stacks may become an eye sore. He added that Luther cannot guarantee the stacks won't be
visible.
Shaffer asked the representatives to discuss the issue of odors. O'Dougherty commented that
dust would be minimal due to filters and that the latest technology would be used in the building
to minimize odors.
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Groger asked how many cars would there be on the lot during the week. O'Dougherty said 40
cars would be worked on at any given time and it would take approximately 9.6 days to fix a
vehicle. O'Dougherty said that a good number of them would be stored inside because of where
they may be in the process. Groger asked about the 60 stacked spaces and are that many
necessary. O'Dougherty commented the reason for 60 stacked spaces was to have a margin of
safety. He reviewed the number of parking and believes that they need the number on the site
plan.
Groger asked about horsepower and believes the most horsepower needed would be for frame
straightening. O'Dougherty concurred. Morcomb commented that he could not answer that
question. Timothy Pugh, Sherwin Williams Company, 9201 Penn Avenue, Bloomington,
commented that the frame straightening equipment is aero-jhydraulic and explained the amount
of horsepower used, which he believed was very minimal. He added, in body shops the major
horsepower is located in the air compressor, and most other tools are hand held. Pugh said he
was not aware of a shop that uses a 100 horsepower motor. Groger asked about the noise
generated to the outside of the building. Pugh said that technology has changed so much and
work is done differently today.
Pentel asked how tall the overhead doors were facing Golden Valley Road. O'Dougherty said
that he believes they would be 12 to 14 feet. He added the openings to the shop have been
minimized to lower any noise outside, and with the doors closed the noise is very muffled.
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Pentel asked if the building would be a smoke free environment, and if so, where would the
employees go to smoke or eat outside. O'Dougherty said that he had not looked at outside
space for this use, but believed it would be located inside the fenced-in area and with limited
exposure.
Hoffman asked O'Dougherty to reveal on the color site plan where the tandem parking was
located, which he did. Eck commented that O'Dougherty said that in the long run it would be
detrimental not to have the tandem parking and asked what might change in the future to
require the tandem parking. O'Dougherty said that Luther has submitted an application as if it
would be a fully operational body shop with 20 employees immediately. He said initially there
would be approximately 12 employees on site and in three to five years possibly 20 to 22
employees. Eck asked if the service they were supplying was for the general public.
O'Dougherty commented that most work of the body shop is driven by dealer contact, but a
good amount is referred directly to repair facilities from the insurance companies. He said it was
more regional and geographically driven.
Pentel asked where signage would be located on the site and the height of the signage.
O'Dougherty said that he had not thought about signage for the site and that all signs would
conform to City Code. He commented that Luther would probably like to have a pylon on Olson
Memorial Highway and possibly on Golden Valley Road or just a monument sign on Golden
Valley Road.
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Pentel asked about the elevation of the building. O'Dougherty commented that he believes
there is about a 12-foot clearance inside. Pentel asked about the proposed 14- foot door on the
north side. O'Dougherty said that the bowling lanes were located on the north end of the
building and were below grade causing the outside door to be 14 feet in height.
McAleese asked if vehicles would exit out of the new addition and to do this would there be
ramping up to ground level. O'Dougherty said there would be ramping inside the building due to
the grade change. McAleese asked if they looked at an option where the new addition would
conform to all code requirements. O'Dougherty said that he believes the architect found it to be _
unfeasible to place the addition anywhere else. He said the architect looked at placing the
addition on the north side but it would still infringe into the setback. He said the architect
believes that placing the addition on the north end would not give the look of a balanced out
site.
Groger asked if the applicant sees any problem with snow removal due to having the exterior
fence adjacent to the parking lot and berming behind. O'Dougherty commented another reason
for the additional parking on the north end was to be able to push the snow up to the fence.
Since there would be no tow trucks or flat bed trucks stored on the property, Groger asked the
applicant if vehciles would be brought in by conctractors. O'Dougherty said there would be no
on-site trucks except for a service vehicle that would be a van or sports utility vehicle. This
vehicle would be stored inside if not driven by an employee. O'Dougherty concluded by saying
that Luther Company is making its best effort to improve a site that is excessively paved at this
time.
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Pentel opened the informal public hearing; seeing and hearing no one; Pentel closed the
informal public hearing.
Pentel said one issue she had with the development was a front yard - back yard question, and
was Luther treating this proposal with Olson Memorial Highway as the front yard or was Golden
Valley Road, with the apartments across the street, the front yard. She said that this was just an
observation.
Hoffman noted that with the proposed additional landscaping along Golden Valley Road, the
site may look better than it does at the current time. Pentel noted that in the past berms have
not always been constructed to what has been approved. Hoffman asked if there was a legal
definition of a berm. Pentel said no and that the Commission's action should include language
concerning a berm and direct staff to verify that this occurs.
Shaffer said he had a concern that berming this particular piece of property would not prevent
the apartment building directly across Golden Valley Road from seeing beyond the berm or
fencing. Pentel said the fence would help those driving by to not see the damaged cars in the
lot. Groger commented that there would not need to be berming or fencing if there were not
what he would call "outdoor storage" on the site contrary to City Code. Groger said he was
troubled by the proposal and believes it is a poor use for the site. He said this is a very visible
piece of property and the proposal is squeezing much on this property. Groger said that he
does not believe the "use" and "outdoor storage" are appropriate given there are residential
uses to the south and north, and the existing building is already encroaching into the side
setback. He therefore believes too much of an inappropriate use is being proposed in the
Commercial Zoning District and would have to vote against the request.
Pentel said she is concerned with the stacks on top of the building and that the apartments
would look directly at the stacks. She believes this proposal is a lot of development for the site.
Eck commented that just a short distance to the east of this site is Golden Valley Tire which
seems to be short on parking. He asked Director Grimes if there has been a problem with this
site. Grimes commented that in terms that they park in the setback area and staff tells them not
to and it continues, there is a problem. This use does not meet the parking requirement on this
site but they have been there for many years and basically they are considered legally
nonconforming with parking and setback issues. Eck said he believes the appearance of the
proposed site would look much better than the Golden Valley Tire site.
Shaffer said that he believes that the proposal should improve what is presently there now, but
that is not necessary the point. He said he is not sure it is an appropriate use for this site given
Farmers Insurance to the east, National Camera to the west and the apartments to the north.
He said another concern is that the building is very close to the west and south property line, as
is the proposed trash enclosure to the south property line.
Pentel asked a representative to address the outdoor storage because this is something that
staff suggested be moved into the building. O'Dougherty commented that the architect was
trying to predict what the City would like to see and said that it would not be a problem to move
the trash enclosure into the building.
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Shaffer said another issue is the parking lot along Golden Valley Road sitting in the front
setback area. He said he does not see why parking should go into the front setback based on
want, but may not necessarily be needed. He believes the berm would not necessarilly cover
up the damaged cars. He said he was concerned with the amount of the site being developed.
Shaffer said he would have to vote against the proposal.
McAleese said he was gong to vote against the proposal for the same reasons pointed out by
other Members of the Commission. He said the use is too dense for this particular site because
the proposed addition needs to project into the setback and there is a need for additional
parking to intrude into the front setback. McAleese added that the use does not fit the site. He
said he would hesitate to recommend approval and then send this on to the Board of Zoning
Appeals (BZA) because it makes it difficult for the Board to turn down an appeal. McAleese
continued by saying that it seems that being keepers of the Zoning Code they have a
fundamental purpose in protecting the code and the commission can say intruding into the
setback is wrong. He added that if it were just the existing building, and not the addition, he
could live with this intrusion, but with the addition and parking on the south and north ends
protruding into front setbacks is unacceptable. He said there is just too much building on the
site. McAleese said that he also agrees with Commissioner Groger that the damaged vehicles
are outside storage. He believes this proposal seems fundamentally different in that a car
dealership is dealing with new cars or rather good looking cars. The cars on the proposed lot
need body work. He added that the existing building and parking lot are not very attractive and
this proposal could have looked better but sets a bad precedent and believes there are uses
that would be a better fit for this site.
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Rasmussen said that she questions whether this use is not better suited for an industrial area
vs. a commercial area. She believes the applicant will have a difficult time screening the site
from the apartments on Golden Valley Road because they are at a higher elevation.
Rasmussen does not agree that the parking lot should be extended and degrees that the
project is too dense for the site. She said the stacks on the building add another element to the
property that would not be attractive. She added that the applicant has provided for better
landscaping but hopes that they can find a larger piece of property that is more suitable for this
operation.
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Pentel asked staff what kind of motion staff is looking for. Grimes commented that a motion of
denial would be appropriate. Knoblauch added that there would need to be findings for this
recommendation. She said one finding could be that there is too much development for the
site. The second finding could be that the commission believes there would be outdoor storage
and a third finding could be that the visual appearance of the stacks is not appropriate for the
commercial zoning district. Groger said he would be inclined to add that he does not find the
"use" appropriate in the Commercial Zoning District, and that a collision repair shop is different
from a service station with service bays. Pentel said the renters in the apartment building would
be able to see over the fence and see cars parked very tight, unlike a car dealership. She
believes the fence is there more for security reasons.
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Eck asked if it would be an accurate statement to say that the renters on the second floor of the
apartment building would see the parked cars. Pentel said possibly depending on the type of
fence being used. Shaffer questioned putting a fence around the entire northern parking area
and creating a "Menards" yard.
MOVED by Groger, seconded by McAleese and motion carried unanimously to recommend
denial of the proposal based on the following recommendation:
1. The request incorporates too much development for the site's size, as evidenced by the
requested variances;
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2. A collision repair center is a different and more industrial scale of use than the gas stations,
battery and tire services, and other routine auto maintenance facilities found in the
Commercial zoning district, with characteristics such as multiple rooftop venting stacks and
outdoor storage of vehicles under repair for an average of 9.6 days at a time; and
3. The proposed site is a particularly visible commercial property, given its frontage on and
proximity to both Highway 55 and Golden valley Road, which in combination with existing
and proposed variances leaves no appropriate "back yard" area where the more industrial
aspects of the use might be adequately concealed from view.
III. Reports on Meetings ofthe Housing and Redevelopment Authority, City
Council and Board of Zoning Appeals
Commissioner Hoffman reported on the HRA meeting of October 5th, at which the public
comment process for the Allianz Environmental Assessment Worksheet (EAW) was discussed.
He also raised several questions about the drafting and purpose of an EAW. Staff provided a
brief explanation, and stated that each commissioner would receive a copy of the EAW when it
is released for comment. The commissioner talked about EAW's in general.
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IV.
Other Business
A. Discussion of the Olympic Printing Site Study Design
The commissioners discussed staff's draft study outline. Several decisions remain to be made
about the exact scheduling and format of activities proposed for each step in the study design.
There was concern about whether the proposal includes more public input than the scope of
this particular study calls for. Staff explained that the outline is intended to serve as a prototype
of the larger-scale 1-394 corridor study planned for a later date. It will be relatively simple to
adapt some steps in the overall design if the commissioners decide that a more compact public
input segment will result in greater willingness to participate in this preliminary effort. Staff and
commissioners talked about some alternatives for different steps.
There was also discussion about the uncertainty of the Allianz redevelopment proposal at this
time. If Allianz does not go forward, there will be no additional tax increment financing available
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to support the types of development activities that might be recommended as an outcome of
this site study. Commissioners were reluctant to raise public expectations through the study
process without having a reasonable assurance that a development "vision" for the site could
really be implemented. In addition, waiting for more detailed information on the Allianz
development's scale, appearance, and timing will improve the quality of the proposed study.
The Commission instructed staff to proceed with other information-gathering as described in the
study outline. The two blocks bounded by Laurel Avenue, Colorado Avenue, 1-394, and Florida
Avenue will be added to the data collection area initially proposed by staff. Overall study design
will not be finalized by the Commissioners until the Allianz matter is more settled.
V. Work Session on Allianz EAW
Given the earlier discussion about the EAW process, and the importance of the results of this
particular EAW to the proposed site study, Commissioners felt they would benefit from an
educational session on the EAW. Several of them have questions about what triggers an EAW, e
what information is required, how the data are collected and analyzed, and how the results
might be used. All Commissioners agreed that they do not want to infringe on the role of the
City Council as the responsible governmental unit for reviewing the EAW, but the
Commissioners felt that educating them through a publicized work session could provide an
extra opportunity for the Council to educate the general public.
Moved by MCAleese, seconded by Hoffman, and unanimously approved to make the following
request to the City Council:
That the consultant on the EAW be made available for an educational work session with
the Planning Commission;
.:. to be scheduled for the Commission's November 8th meeting;
.:. with prior public notice of the session;
.:. with cable televising of the session, though it will clearly be billed as a work session _
and not an informal public hearing of any sort; and
.:. with or without an opportunity (at the Council's discretion) for the public to ask their
own questions for clarification purposes-but not to enter any comment into the
record. If the Council prefers that no public questions be entertained at this work
session, members of the public will be given an explanation of how, when, and to
whom any questions or comments should appropriately be directed.
VI. Adjournment
Chair Pentel adjourned the meeting at 9:15P.M.