01-22-01 PC Minutes
Regular Meeting of the
Golden Valley Planning Commission
January 22,2001
A regular meeting of the Planning Commission was held at the Golden Valley City Hall,
Council Chambers, 7800 Golden Valley Road, Golden Valley, Minnesota, on Monday,
January 22,2001. Chair Pentel called the meeting to order at 7:00 pm.
Those present were Chair Pentel and Commissioners Eck, Groger, McAleese,
Rasmussen and Shaffer. Commissioner Hoffman was absent. Also present were
Director of Planning Mark Grimes, City Planner Dan Olson and Recording Secretary
Lisa Wittman.
I. Approval of Minutes - November 27, 2000 Joint Meeting of the Golden Valley
Environmental Commission, Planning Commission and Open Space and Recreation
Commission; and December 11, 2000 and January 8, 2001 Joint City Council/Planning
Commission Meetings.
Commissioner Eck indicated Council Member Johnson was noted as being absent at
the January 8 Joint City Council/Planning Commission Meeting. She was present at this
meeting.
Commission Shaffer stated on the January 8 Joint City Council/Planning Commission
Meeting the second paragraph on page five should be amended to read:
Shaffer stated developers should approach the City and state why they want what they
are asking for. It's the developer's responsibility to tell us what the advantage is to the
City.
Chair Pentel indicated that the fourth paragraph on page three of the December 11
Joint City Council/Planning Commission meeting should be amended to read:
Groger asked what happened with the Golden Meadows project. (Not the
Meadowbrook project.)
MOVED by Groger, seconded by McAleese and motion carried unanimously to approve
the November 27, 2000 Joint Meeting of the Golden Valley Environmental Commission,
Planning Commission and Open Space and Recreation Commission; and December
11, 2000 and January 8, 2001 Joint City Council/Planning Commission Meetings
minutes as amended.
II. Informal Public Hearing - Preliminary Design Plan - Rudy Luther P.U.D. No. 91
Applicant Rudy Luther Toyota
Address: 8801 Wayzata Boulevard, Golden Valley, MN
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Purpose:
The P.U.D. would allow for a car dealership building addition, various site
improvements, and the temporary inclusion of an alternative school
building.
Director of Planning and Development, Mark Grimes, stated that Rudy Luther Toyota is
requesting a P.U.D. for the existing dealership that they have owned and made several
improvements to since the mid 1970's. Grimes referred to his memo to the Planning
Commission dated January 18, 2001. Luther is requesting a P.U.D. because they are
proposing two uses on the property. One of the uses is the car dealership and the other
is an alternative high school. The school that exists on the site now has a lease that is
up in a year or two.
Grimes stated the P.U.D. process is a two-stage process because it requires first, the
preliminary design and then a general plan of development, along with a replatting of
the property. The proposal is to improve the property by putting a 15,500 sq. ft. addition
on the existing building and eliminating the old gas station property on the northeast
corner of the site where they are currently selling used cars. They will also incorporate
the used car sales temporarily into their main building and when the school is removed
from the site, the used car sales would be relocated onto the school property.
Another portion of this proposal is the vacation of the frontage road to the north of the
building. Before 1-394 went through this area, access to the development was off the
state-owned frontage road. When 1-394 went in, Miller Street was constructed. Staff has
worked with the Minnesota Department of Transportation. They no longer feel that it's
necessary for them to own the frontage road so they have turned it back to the City of
Golden Valley. Staff is now in the process of vacating that property and turning it back
to the adjoining property owners, which would be the three auto dealerships in this
area. This adds about one acre to the site and provides them some additional land for
parking and displaying vehicles.
This addition is mainly for service and a new waiting area. Currently, they lack space in
their existing building to be able to do their service. Right now they use an off-site
building on Pennsylvania Avenue to do some of their car cleanup. This would allow
them to eliminate that site and bring it onto this campus.
Grimes stated there are significant changes from the existing dealership to the new
plan. They are providing some additional green area along Miller Street and along
General Mills Boulevard, although it will not meet the 35-foot green area required in the
Industrial Zoning district. Along the proposed vacated frontage road they are showing
about a ten-foot green area setback. The aerial maps indicated there is about 30 to 40
feet between the curb and the freeway wall. MnDot will maintain that property because
they use it for maintenance. Even though the requirement is a 35-foot setback from
street rig ht-of-ways , in this case because it is against a freeway wall there is not as
great of a need for the setback requirement.
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Grimes added that along the west property line they are indicating that they meet the
10-foot setback requirement for green area. Along the north property line, the City
would have to maintain an easement over the entire area because of utilities, so all they
can use the vacated area for is parking. In terms of parking, they have provided a
calculation of their requirements. Commissioner Shaffer indicated that some of the
parking spaces aren't twenty feet deep. Grimes stated that the City requires parking
spaces to be nine feet by twenty feet. Some of them are nine by twenty; some are only
nine by eighteen.
Grimes stated either we can allow that as a variance, or ask them to adjust those
spaces by shrinking the aisle width. In the inventory area Staff doesn't see an issue with
them not having 20-foot parking spaces. In the customer and display area there should
be 20-foot parking spaces.
Pentel asked Grimes to address the installation of fences and gates along Miller Street.
Grimes stated they are proposing to put in a wooden fence and gates for security
across the driveways and at the display areas. There were two additional driveways,
one along General Mills Boulevard, plus the frontage road driveway. Those are being
reduced to one driveway across from 394. Staff sees reducing the number of driveways
as an advantage.
Another issue is the school parking. They need to dedicate 25 spaces, with some
handicapped spaces. Grimes stated he went through the eligibility of the application in
his report and tried to show they met the requirements of the ordinance. There were a
couple of areas where they did not meet it. On the original plan they didn't show the
setback lines. They have since provided this information. The City Engineer in his
review of the preliminary plat noticed there was some easement information that was
not shown. He has talked to their engineer and they are providing this information to
him. Grimes referred to the City Engineer's memo dated January 18, 2001 and noted
some concerns regarding ponding issues that need to be looked at with the Department
of Transportation, but feels the project can go forward to the Council at this point.
Chair Pentel asked since they are operating in an industrial zone if a Conditional Use
Permit needs to be issued at this time since they are coming forward with a P.U.D. and
a new plan.
Grimes stated they haven't changed the footprint of the building and that's generally
when the City requires a Conditional Use Permit and since they are applying a Planned
Unit Development that takes the place of a Conditional Use Permit.
Shaffer asked if the other dealerships are aware of the vacation of the frontage road.
Grimes stated they are aware of the vacation of this road and it fits in with their future
plans.
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Pentel asked Grimes if the vacated land from MnDot would be sold back to the
dealerships.
Grimes stated when property is vacated it goes back to the adjoining properties from
the time it was dedicated and that this is something the City Attorney will look at.
John Baker, Architect for the project, pointed out some of the history of the property
stating when it was originally built in the 1970's it was an R.V. dealership and Miller
Street didn't exist. 1-394 was the same height as the frontage road now being vacated
and that is the reason some of these buildings seem peculiar because of what was
being changed around them, which is part of the reason the setbacks are a hardship
and difficult to meet. Baker stated the intent is to make a nicer presentation of this
building to 1-394, combine all the parcels together and tie them together.
Pentel asked Baker if the tanks have been removed from the gas station on the
northeast corner.
Baker stated when the building was remodeled a number of years ago all the
environmental issues regarding the site had been resolved.
Pentel asked if they intend to do anything to the school building to tie it in with the rest
of the buildings.
Baker stated they intend to re-grade, re-Iandscape, re-light and re-pave the entire site,
and remodel the school building so it will be a cohesive development.
Chair Pentel opened the public hearing.
Seeing and hearing no one Chair Pentel closed the public hearing.
Eck stated he's in favor of the proposal because it would improve the site.
McAleese stated that he supports the proposal and thinks a P.U.D. is appropriate, and
talked about the analysis behind it. He sees that this site has two uses now, but will
have only one use after the P.U.D. is approved. However, the City also allows a P.U.D.
where there are two separate buildings on a single parcel and we clearly have that
here, so that isn't a major issue. McAleese also mentioned the Conditional Use Permit.
He stated that it seems because we are talking about an area where this is not a
permitted use, it's a conditional use, the appropriate analysis would be to look atwhat is
required to meet the conditional use requirement and would this be an appropriate use
within that zoning district. McAleese stated he has looked at those elements from our
zoning code and they don't present a problem here and this is an acceptable
conditional use.
Shaffer stated he wanted to make it clear that having 18 ft. parking spaces is one of the
zoning variances that are required for the property.
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Pentel asked if they have enough space when cars get dropped off.
Baker stated they've provided a very simple, accessible route for the trucks to use.
Monte Bion, General Manager, Rudy Luther, stated it will be much safer because the
cars will be dropped off where there are no customers and they will be going from 300
parking spaces to 530 spaces so it won't be a problem directing the traffic away from
the customers.
Pentel asked about signage issues.
Grimes stated they would have to meet the industrial sign code.
Eck asked about the location of the dumpsters.
Grimes stated any dumpsters would have to be screened.
Shaffer mentioned the issue of ponds.
Baker stated they've been working with MnDot and they are recreating the calculations
and, if need be, they will enlarge the existing pond with whatever additional capacity
they may need.
MOVED by Eck with the incorporation of the City Engineers requirements, Seconded by
Shaffer and motion carried unanimously to approve the Preliminary Design Plan for
Rudy Luther, P.U.D No. 91
III. Informal Public Hearing - General Land Use Plan Map Amendment
Applicant: Hennepin County
Address: Southeast corner of Madison Avenue West and Nevada Avenue North -
property located at 7155 Madison Avenue West, Golden Valley, MN
Purpose: The applicant is requesting to change the General Land Use Plan Map for
the property from Semi-Public Facilities to Industrial at the corner of
Madison Avenue West and Nevada Avenue North
IV. Informal Public Hearing - Property Rezoning (Z014-05)
Applicant: Hennepin County
Address: Southeast corner of Madison Avenue West and Nevada Avenue North -
property located at 7155 Madison Avenue West, Golden Valley, MN
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Purpose:
The applicant is requesting a rezoning of the property from Institutional
(1-3) to Industrial at the corner of Madison Avenue West and Nevada
Avenue North
Dan Olson, City Planner, presented Hennepin County's request for a General Land Use
Plan Map Amendment and Property Rezoning. Hennepin County wants to sell this
property. Before they do this they want to rezone it to industrial and change the general
land use from a semi-public facility to industrial because they feel there would be more
uses for the property within the industrial zoning district. Olson discussed the history of
the property. Right now it's a vacant lot, for the last 25 years it was temporary housing
for teenage girls. Prior to that it was a printing company. In 1997, the County purchased
it and planned to demolish the building and rebuild a 16-bed boys detention facility.
Because of that, they received some variances and a conditional use permit and had it
rezoned to institutional.
The General Land use plan was amended to semi-public facilities. Upon receiving
these approvals it was discovered that it was too expensive to build the facility, so now
the property is sitting vacant. Staff recommends the approval of the rezoning and
general land use plan amendment as it fits with the surrounding industrial area.
Lorrie Stromme, Planner for Hennepin County, asked if the Commissioners had any
questions.
Pentel asked if they've determined if their existing facility is adequate.
Stromme stated that at about the same time they were planning to build the 16-bed
juvenile center, legislation came through with funding that allowed the County to expand
the existing juvenile justice center rather than operate a second facility.
Chair Pentel opened the public hearing.
Seeing and hearing no one Chair Pentel closed the public hearing.
MOVED by Shaffer, seconded by Eck and motion carried unanimously to approve the
Land Use Plan amendment and rezoning.
-- Short Recess --
V. Reports on Meetings of the Housing and Redevelopment Authority, City
Council, Board of Zoning Appeals and other Meetings
VI. Other Business
The March 12,2001 Planning Commission Meeting will be cancelled.
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There was discussion about the Hidden Lakes peninsula development that will be on
the Agenda in February. The Planning Commission decided to meet on February 3,
2001 to discuss some of the issues concerning this development.
VII. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 8:20