07-09-01 PC Minutes
Regular Meeting of the
Golden Valley Planning Commission
July 9, 2001
A regular meeting of the Planning Commission was held at the Golden Valley City Hall,
Council Chambers, 7800 Golden Valley Road, Golden Valley, Minnesota, on Monday,
July 9, 2001. Chair Pentel called the meeting to order at 7 pm.
Those present were Chair Pentel and Commissioners Eck, Groger, Hoffman, McAleese
and Rasmussen. Also present were Director of Planning and Development Mark
Grimes, City Planner Dan Olson and Recording Secretary Lisa Wittman. Commissioner
Shaffer was absent.
I. Approval of Minutes - June 25, 2001 Planning Commission Meeting
Eck stated that the first page, last paragraph, first sentence should read "west" rather
than east.
MOVED by Eck, seconded by McAleese and motion carried unanimously to approve
the June 25, 2001 minutes with the above correction.
II. Informal Public Hearing - Amendment to the Zoning Voting Requirements
Applicant: City of Golden Valley, MN
Purpose: The Ordinance revision would change (reduce) the voting
requirement for certain rezoning related matters from a two-thirds
majority to a simple majority of all members of the City Council
Grimes referred to his memo dated July 2,2001 and stated that this request from Staff
would amend Chapter 11 (Zoning) of the City Code to change the voting requirement
for certain zoning related matters from a two-thirds majority vote to a simple majority
vote of all members of the City Council. He stated that effective May 30, 2001 the
Minnesota Legislature amended the statutory voting requirement for rezoning matters
be reducing it from a two-thirds majority to a simple majority of all members of the
council. He stated that the City Attorney has recommended that there should be
changes made in Golden Valley's ordinance that would bring us in line with the majority
vote for rezoning matters, amendments to the Zoning Code, PUD's and Conditional Use
Permits, which are passed by ordinances.
He stated the City Attorney has been in contact with the League of Minnesota Cities
and it is their opinion that the change from a two-thirds vote to a simple majority vote is
something they are suggesting cities should do.
Grimes stated that the legislation does say that any zoning amendment that would
change the zoning from a residential district to a commercial or industrial district would
still require a two-thirds vote of the City Council. He also stated thatthis legislation
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change does not include changes to the Comprehensive Plan Map and that any
changes to that plan would still require a two-thirds majority vote by Council.
Rasmussen asked if this recommended change would also affect the Planning
Commissioners votes. Grimes stated that it would not because they only make
recommendations to the Council and that Planning Commission votes are a simple
majority of the established quorum.
Hoffman asked what the motive is for Golden Valley and other Cities to make this
change and stated that it seems to be optional. Grimes stated that it is the City
Attorney's position that even though the language from the legislation says, "may"
it is his opinion that that really is in effect meant to mean shall. He stated that as far as
the motivation behind cities making this change, he's heard that it's been getting difficult
to approve certain affordable housing developments with the super majority vote. He
stated that certain cities weren't approving certain types of developments even though
the majority of the council was in favor of them.
Groger asked about the nature of Grimes discussions with the League of Minnesota
Cities and with other cities and asked if the discussions were specifically regarding PUD
ordinances or other rezoning matters. Grimes stated he specifically asked them how
they were handling the changes based on the new state statute.
Pentel asked Grimes if he has talked to any adjoining cities. He stated he doesn't know
what other cities are doing but that the City Attorney has researched this and has talked
to staff at the League of Minnesota Cities and other city attorneys.
Eck stated he is concerned about this change in voting requirements taking away the
rights of one of the City Council members.
McAleese asked if this change would have to be approved by the old (two-thirds) vote.
Grimes stated that this would require a majority vote of the Council because it's not a
zoning district change and stated that the City requires four votes when it is a change to
the zoning district, a CUP or a PUD. McAleese stated that doesn't make sense to him
and that a fundamental change is being made to the way the zoning code operates and
it seems to him the existing rules should be followed. Grimes read from the zoning code
where it states that Golden Valley only requires a two-thirds vote when it affects a
boundary change.
Eck asked if the City Attorney is saying that in all likelihood, if Golden Valley retains the
two-thirds majority voting requirement, a court test of that would not be upheld. Grimes
stated that the City Attorney, the League of Minnesota Cites and other city attorneys are
all saying it wouldn't withstand a court challenge by a developer.
Chair Pentel opened the informal public hearing.
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Hugh Maynard, 1420 Spring Valley Road, referred to his letter addressed to the City
Council and Planning Commission dated July 5, 2001 (received by Planning
Commission members and Staff members on July 9) and stated there are provisions of
state law that say city councils shall adopt ordinances by a simple majority vote unless
otherwise specifically provided. He stated the change says, "may" but if the other parts
of the statute are read all together it is a "shall" situation. He stated he disagreed with
Grimes and stated that any change in the zoning ordinance requires a two-thirds vote.
He stated Golden Valley's PUD's ordinance states that the City is issuing PUD permits
and nowhere in the PUD ordinance does it state that the zoning ordinance is being
amended and in fact, it states adopting a PUD does not change the underlying zoning.
He stated a permit is issued under a zoning ordinance and in itself, is not an
amendment to the zoning ordinance so therefore, it's not necessary to change the PUD
rules.
He stated that it is up to the Council whether they should have a rule that says the
same thing should apply to conditional use permits and PUD permits. He stated he
doesn't think it's wise public policy to change the voting requirements to a simple
majority regarding conditional use permits and PUD permits because PUD permits
amount to throwing out the whole zoning code. He stated he thinks it should be harder
to get a PUD permit because there are no standards or rules to follow. He discussed
PUD developments in Golden Valley and stated anything goes with PUD's and there
are no rules for variance requests considered in PUD's. He stated that for that reason
he feels Golden Valley needs the heightened procedural safeguard that is the two-
thirds vote.
Eck asked Maynard if he disagreed with the City Attorney's memo in regards to it
standing up in court against a developer. Maynard stated that he does disagree with the
City Attorney and stated that there can be different standards of voting for conditional
use permits and PUD permits compared to the standard of voting for amending the
zoning ordinance.
Groger asked Maynard if he is aware of what other cities are doing in regards to their
PUD ordinances. Maynard stated he didn't poll any other cities regarding the proposed
voting change.
Linda Loomis, 6677 Olson Memorial Highway, stated she doesn't think it is good public
policy to make this voting change. She stated it is her understanding that this legislation
was bullied through the legislature by developers under the banner of protecting
affordable housing and what it's done is given the developers another tool to use
against citizens. She stated it is the law and rule of deep pockets again because of the
potential threat of a lawsuit by a developer. She stated that individual citizens don't
have time to pay attention to what is going on in their city until the bulldozers are next
door. She recommended against changing the voting requirements until the City is
forced to by an actual lawsuit.
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Hugh Maynard, 1420 Spring Valley Road, stated that a lobbyist from his firm told him
that this legislation had other issues in it that made affordable housing easier. He stated
that the law is not limited to affordable housing projects and that the person that
authored the bill was focused entirely on affordable housing and didn't know what he
was doing or the ripple affect it would cause in the rest of the types of developments.
He stated that the City Attorney does the City a disservice when in the absence of a
genuine threat by a real developer he raises the possibility of a lawsuit as a reason to
pass an ordinance that doesn't have any good justification.
Chair Pentel closed the informal public hearing.
Pentel stated she is bothered by this proposal and she doesn't read "may" as shall in
this legislation and stated that moving to a simple majority vote would have a ripple
affect other than just on affordable housing. She stated it squelches the ability of
Council members to have opposition to developments that they believe are not in the
best interest of the City. She stated she is troubled by this change and by being pushed
forward on this, knowing there is a development that is waiting for this change to
happen. She stated she is interested in knowing how quickly adjoining cities are
pushing this change forward and stated she would like some information from some
nonpartisan groups on what Golden Valley should be doing.
Rasmussen stated that most PUD's in Golden Valley are infill developments and those
are things that neighbors feel strongly about and to decrease the number of votes that
are necessary for a PUD in a neighborhood development would be a disservice for
those people and does not sound like good public policy for Golden Valley. Pentel
stated she doesn't think that Golden Valley necessarily has the same issues with
affordable housing that other cities have.
McAleese stated that in changing the voting requirement there are two separate issues.
One is the zoning code generally and the other is the PUD, which is a massive
conditional use permit.
McAleese stated that if he understood Mr. Maynard's comments, the City doesn't have
much choice when it comes to the zoning code generally because the "may" actually
does mean shall because of some of the other things in the state statute. He stated it
would help when the City Attorney says something has to be done, if he would explain
why it has to be done. He stated Mr. Maynard's comments regarding the PUD and
Conditional Use permit made sense to him and he would like the City Attorney to review
Mr. Maynard's comments before going forward with a recommendation to the Council.
Grimes stated that Golden Valley has been treating PUD's like ordinances and the City
Attorney's opinion is that if the City changed the ordinance twenty years ago to a two-
thirds voting requirement, it should be consistent and change it to a majority voting
requirement now. McAleese stated that now there is another point of view that seems
to make a lot of sense and he would like to get the City Attorney's response before
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going forward, particularly because the City is in the process of changing the entire
PUD ordinance.
Groger asked if there is a time frame in the statute and if it has to be approved right
now. Grimes stated that it can be delayed but several cities have already changed their
ordinances and the City Attorney thinks it's in the City's best interest to change the
voting requirements before we're in a situation where we may end up in a lawsuit.
Groger stated the timing is bad with the Hidden Lakes project pending and it's difficult
to discuss the proposed change to the voting requirements without thinking of the
impacts of the change on that specific proposal. He stated he has concerns about
making the approval of PUD's even easier. He stated that his preference would be to
table the item until there is more information presented. Grimes stated the Planning
Commission could table the item and stated he would ask the City Attorney for more
information.
Groger asked if the City Council needs a vote from the Planning Commission in order to
proceed or if the Council can just go ahead with this proposed voting change without
delaying it. Grimes stated the Council would like a recommendation from the Planning
Commission and that they are going to have to decide on this issue one way or another
and it doesn't matter what issues are before them. He stated that Hidden Lakes or any
other housing development could just delay their projects until the Council makes their
decision.
Groger asked staff to find out what adjoining cities plans are for changing their voting
requirements, specifically for PUD's.
MOVED by Hoffman, seconded by McAleese and motion carried unanimously to table
the request for an amendment to the zoning voting requirements.
III. Informal Public Hearing - KQRS Rezoning
Applicant: KQRS, Inc.lABC Inc.
Address: Lot 1, Block 1, KQRS 2nd Addition (917 North Lilac Drive), Golden
Valley, MN
Purpose: The applicant is requesting to rezone the eastern portion of the
property from Radio and Television zoning district to Business and
Professional Offices zoning district
Grimes referred to his staff report and stated that on May 12, 2001 the Planning
Commission reviewed the PUD for the KQRS property to split the property into two lots.
He stated that the west half will be for radio towers and the east half will be an office
building. He stated that the east half of the property now needs to be rezoned to
Business and Professional Office because it is currently zoned Radio and Television.
He showed the Zoning Map and the General Land Use Map and stated that staff feels it
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would be more appropriately zoned as Business and Professional Offices rather than
Industrial because it's adjacent to residential properties.
Chair Pentel opened the informal public hearing.
Carol Evans, 5527 Lindsay Street stated that she agreed with Grimes and would like to
see the property stay a professional office building and not an industrial area.
MOVED by Hoffman, seconded by Eck and motion carried unanimously to approve the
request to rezone the eastern portion of the property from Radio and Television zoning
district to Business and Professional Offices zoning district.
-- Short Recess --
IV. Reports on Meetings of the Housing and Redevelopment Authority, City
Council, Board of Zoning Appeals and other Meetings
There were no reports from other meetings discussed.
Commissioner Hoffman left the meeting.
V. Other Business
A. Strategic Planning Session on Telecommunications Ordinance - Bill Thibault,
Thibault Associates, Members of City's Open Space and Recreation Commission,
and Garrett Lysiak from Owl Engineering.
The Planning Commission moved to the Council Conference Room and met with the
following members of the City's Open Space and Recreation Commission: Jim
Johnson, Linda Loomis, Roger McConico, Lance Ness, Jerry Sandler, and Tom Zins.
Also present were Director of Parks and Recreation Rick Jacobson, Director of
Planning and Development Mark Grimes, Director of Public Works Jeannine Clancy,
and City Planner Dan Olson
Bill Thibault, Thibault Associates stated that the City of Golden Valley asked him to
conduct a study of telecommunication towers and antennas to serve as the foundation
for a new ordinance. He asked the group to brainstorm about what they like about the
telecommunication facilities in Golden Valley. The following list is a result of that effort.
. Don't have to go through the CUP process for obvious locations like the Industrial
Zoning District
. Reliable access to the phones, reliable communications
. Provides a source of revenue for the City
. There is more than one carrier on one tower (co-location)
. The safety and emergency service they provide
. The unobtrusive locations that they are in now
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. There is only a few of them - that's good
. Enhances communications systems, broadens communications options
. Good use of public land
. Provides income to land owners
. Antennas that are disguised and integrated with buildings
. Good reception
. Height limits
. People use cell phones as their only phone, as an alternative to a conventional
phone
. Improves individual efficiency and productivity
. Provides a spread of new technology
. More than one use for towers
. Not allowed in residential areas
. Short towers that are screened from residential areas and like them in industrial
areas
. Enhances public safety, every phone can be located in cars
. Use MnDOT property for towers
Thibault then asked the group to rank the above list. Safety, reliable towers and
unobtrusive locations were the top three. Thibault then had the group brainstorm about
their dislikes regarding telecommunications towers. The following list is a result of that
effort:
. Towers are ugly and a blight on the landscape
. Interference with reception
. The water tower is not being used
. Causes conflict in dealing with neighbors
. Big Brother aspect of no privacy
. Quantity - growing number of towers - too many towers
. Not educated enough about the towers, not enough information
. Not convinced they are totally safe - safety concerns, health risks
. Lack of standardization of technology
. Annoyance in restaurants - interrupt social functions
. Lack of coordination among carriers
. Some companies are difficult to work with
. Lack of clear city standards for Planning Commission
. At the mercy of providers - conflicting information from providers
. No CUP requirements for obvious locations
. Inadequate coverage in Golden Valley
. Height - proportionality
. Cost to the City
. The variety of the types of towers
. Vehicle distraction
. Distance between the towers is too close
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. Environmental concerns/impacts
. The advantage institutions get when surrounded by residential ex: Historical Society
. No attempt to blend in to existing environment
. Putting poles in wetlands
. Not allowed in obvious areas ex: clinics, apartments
. Too many colors
. Lack of security around them
. Lack of understanding for the need for other features such as creating a new road
for service and maintenance needs
. Location in natural areas
. Can't be buried, must be above ground
. Adjacent properties don't receive any income
. Planning for post-technology removal of towers
Thibault then asked the group to rank the list above and to brainstorm about the goals
of the new ordinance. The following list is a result of that effort:
. The City should provide effective service with the least amount of adverse impact
. Control of location and design
. Start with a clear purpose
. Control/limit towers per certain areas
. Include remedies for problems, or mechanisms to deal with problems
. Require co-location and limit proliferation
. Specified maintenance scheduling
. Determine long term needs the City has for digital technology
. Keep it simple enough for public and provider to understand
. Prohibit advertising
. Protect residents health
. Better and more complete information provided by the applicant
. Costs paid by providers
. The application should be reviewed by a neutral third party, a technical expert
. Define permitted tower uses where towers are permitted
. Provision for abandonment of towers
. Look at providing coverage for the entire City, no holes in coverage
. Regulate the size and location of satellite dishes and antennas
. Deal with the security issues
. Provide for locating on existing buildings or structures
. Prohibit in parks
. Setback requirements
. Regulate in the event of excess towers, transfer them to other owners for other uses
. Current needs versus future needs - Are we investing too much now and the
technology will be obsolete
. Regulate lighting
. Make provider prove that they need it
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. Some kind of permit procedure or agreement with a bond
. Require standardized information
. Landscaping requirements
. Require that providers show that existing towers can not be used and define a
procedure if they can't build it, but need it
Thibault stated he would take the ideas from the group and write a purpose clause and
provide a full tabulation within two weeks and based on this information he will take
direction from the City regarding the drafting of the ordinance.
VI. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 9:50 pm.