11-12-01 PC Minutes
Regular Meeting of the
Golden Valley Planning Commission
November 12, 2001
A regular meeting of the Planning Commission was held at the Golden Valley City Hall,
Council Chambers, 7800 Golden Valley Road, Golden Valley, Minnesota, on Monday,
November 12,2001. Vice Chair, Shaffer called the meeting to order at 7 pm.
Those present were Commissioners Eck, Groger, McAleese, Rasmussen and Shaffer.
Also present were Director of Planning and Development Mark Grimes, City Planner
Dan Olson, and Recording Secretary Lisa Wittman. Absent were Chair Pentel, and
Commissioner Hoffman
I. Approval of Minutes - October 22, 2001 Planning Commission Meeting
MOVED by Eck, seconded by Groger and motion carried unanimously to approve the
October 22, 2001 minutes as submitted.
II. Continued Informal Public Hearing - Zoning Code Text Amendment
Applicant: International Health Care Services
Address: Commercial, Light Industrial, Industrial, Business and Professional
Offices, and Institutional Zoning Districts, Golden Valley, MN
Purpose: The applicant is requesting to add "Adult Day Care Centers" as a
Conditional Use to the City's Commercial, Light Industrial,
Industrial, Business and Professional Offices, and Institutional
zoning districts.
Olson stated that this hearing is a continuation of the informal public hearing held on
October 22,2001 and that he had done further research on Adult Day Care Centers
and is recommending that Golden Valley use the State of Minnesota's definition of
Adult Day Care Centers.
He stated that this would be a change to the City's Commercial, Light Industrial,
Industrial, Business and Professional Office and Institutional zoning districts. He stated
that for parking requirements he is recommending 1 parking space for each 7 persons
cared for and 1 parking space for each employee.
Olson discussed the possibility of the using the term "daytime activity centers" instead
of "adult day care" but stated that upon further review, daytime activity centers are
considered quite different from adult day care centers. He recommended that after the
first of the new year, the Planning Commission review and discuss possible Zoning
Code revisions to daytime activity centers, day care and child care facilities.
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Eck referred to the definition that Olson provided and stated that it refers to functionally
impaired adults. He stated that he got the impression from the applicant at the last
Planning Commission meeting that he wasn't necessarily talking about functionally
impaired adults, but in some cases, simply older, socially isolated adults. He asked how
that use would fit into the proposed definition that refers to functionally impaired adults.
Olson referred to the proposed definition where it states that adults requiring support to
maintain independence in the community was one of the conditions and he felt that
socially isolated adults would fit into that category. Eck questioned if the State might
have some requirements in order to qualify under that section of the definition, or if their
clients might have to be functionally impaired in some way. Olson stated that the
applicant has already received a license from the State using their existing definition of
an adult day care facility.
McAleese stated that he thinks it makes sense to add this definition to the churches and
schools part of the Institution Zoning district, but he didn't think it would work as well in
the 1-2 and 1-4 categories of libraries, museums and parks. Olson stated that his
intention was to allow these types of facilities to be built in the Institutional District and
not necessarily be allowed to go into an existing library or school or church. McAleese
stated he would rather change the underlying zoning rather than fitting it into a place
where it doesn't belong.
McAleese referred to other cities parking recommendations and asked Olson why his
parking recommendation is 1 space for every 7 persons cared for. Olson stated that he
was thinking of the proposal from the applicant and their existing parking conditions, but
stated that the Planning Commission could change those numbers if they wanted to.
Grimes stated that as part of a Conditional Use Permit one ofthe things staff looks at is
if there is adequate space for dropping off clients.
Groger stated that he would be inclined to require more stringent parking requirements.
Rasmussen asked for the definition of daytime activity centers. Olson stated that it is
not defined in the Zoning Code but the intent is more for job training and not social
functions.
Shaffer opened the public hearing.
Michael Tobak, Applicant, clarified that the state statute says that having substantial
difficultly in carrying out one or more of the essential major activities of daily living is
considered an impairment such as requiring glasses to see or having to use a cane to
walk.
Eck asked if applicant's facility would care for people who are basically physically
healthy but who are socially isolated. Tobak stated that their clients are all handicapped
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in one way or another, but they must have some sort of physical condition that would
not allow them to work or learn normally.
Shaffer closed the public hearing.
MOVED by Groger, seconded by Rasmussen and motion carried unanimously to
approve the proposed change to the Zoning Code text to add "Adult Day Care Centers"
as a Conditional Use to the City's Commercial, Light Industrial, Industrial, Business and
Professional Offices, and Institutional Zoning districts with the condition that the parking
requirements are changed to one space for every five persons cared for and one space
for each employee.
III. Informal Public Hearing - Conditional Use Permit (CU-91)
Applicant: BP Products North America, Inc.
Address: 600 Boone Avenue North, Golden Valley, MN
Purpose: The Conditional Use Permit would allow for the existing gasoline
service station, car wash, and convenience store to be replaced
with a gas station, coffee cafe, car wash, and convenience store.
Grimes referred to his memo dated November 7,2001 and stated that the applicant is
proposing to tear down the existing Amoco gas station located at 600 Boone Avenue
North and replace it with a new 4,200 square foot gas station/convenient store and a
792 square foot detached car wash. He stated that the surrounding properties are
mainly industrial and commercial in use.
He stated that most of the staff concerns, including the location being in the floodplain
and traffic issues are addressed in the City Engineer's memo dated November 6, 2001.
He stated that the applicant and the City Engineer would be discussing the need for
extra water storage capacity on the site before the proposal goes on to the City Council
and that the Board of Zoning Appeals would also be looking at the proposal in regard to
setback issues. He discussed the parking requirements and stated he thought it would
be appropriate to have one space for every 500 square feet so they would need 23
spaces and they have provided 28 spaces. He stated the gas pumps will have speakers
and TV. screens on them for internet connection, which will produce some noise, but
he doesn't think it will be a concern in this area.
McAleese questioned the language in item number 8 in the recommendation section of
Mark Grimes' memo dated November 7,2001 and stated that instead of saying this
proposal should be "acted" on by the Board of Zoning Appeals it should say the
proposal will be "approved" by the Board of Zoning Appeals before it is sent to the City
Council for action.
Grimes stated that if the Board of Zoning Appeals denied the request, the applicant
could appeal it to the City Council, but agreed the wording should be changed.
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Eck asked about the future improvements to Boone Avenue, which Grimes spoke of
and asked if he was referring to the intersection at Boone Avenue and Highway 55.
Grimes stated he was referring to all the improvements on Boone Avenue because of
problems with flooding in the area. Eck asked if there are any plans in place to change
the elevation of the intersection so that it will not flood. Grimes stated that has been an
ongoing problem, but this proposal will help the situation with extra water storage
capacity and easements for right-of-way expansion.
Shaffer asked if the Planning Commission should put something in their
recommendation saying the City is not liable for anything due to the flooding in that
area. Grimes stated the applicant is aware of the existing situation, but they could add
something to their recommendation if they wished.
Shaffer stated that the proposed entrance on Golden Valley Road seems too close to
the intersection and asked if this proposal would make that intersection worse. Grimes
stated that the applicant has spent a lot of time with the Traffic Engineer and the City
Engineer and that they felt this was the best way to do it and the way it would work
best.
Jeff Wurst, BP Local Real Estate Manager, gave an overview of the operation and the
company. He showed pictures of how the new facility will look on the outside and
inside. He stated that they are attempting to do a very upscale design, something
different than a traditional convenience store. He discussed the lighting concept and the
canopy design. He discussed the technology incorporated into the design of the store
and stated the gasoline dispensers are internet connected and touch screen activated.
He discussed the Wild Bean Cafe that will be inside the store and stated they will offer
breakfast items and fresh sandwiches at lunchtime. He stated that the cashiers are in
the back of the store and that there are large windows all along the front for safety and
a feeling of openness.
Shaffer asked if there would be outdoor speakers on the site and if so, what they would
be used for. Wurst stated that the speakers wouldn't be used for music or for
promotions but rather for communication with the customers on an as needed basis or
for any safety issues.
Eck asked if the cashier located in the back of the store creates more problems with
drive-offs. Wurst stated that with the glass windows all along the front there isa clear
line of vision and all the cars would be in full sight.
Grimes asked if they intend to put signs in the windows. Wurst stated they might want
to put some signs on the glass but it would be at the top of the windows because they
don't want to defeat the open look of the store.
Rasmussen asked the applicant to discuss the traffic flow and parking. Wurst stated
that they have provided as much parking as possible adjacent to the store in the effort
to get customers to park close to the store to keep the aisles free.
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John Kosmas, KK Design, discussed traffic patterns and flow. He stated that originally
he proposed a different traffic pattern but in working with the Traffic Engineer they
evaluated the count and the existing traffic in the area and came up with the proposal
they have now. He stated that BP has agreed to an easement on the property, which
will help accommodate a sidewalk and free up some of the right-of-way area. He
discussed the outdoor speakers and stated that they will not be in the canopy, but
rather at the individual pumps. He stated the entire site would be monitored by video
cameras.
Linda Fisher, Larkin, Hoffman, Daly & Lindgren, 1500 Wells Fargo Plaza, representing
the applicant, clarified that the applicant concurs with all the recommendations made by
staff with the exception of not allowing outdoor speakers. Also, she stated she is
confident that the details of water storage on the site would be worked out before the
proposal goes to the City Council.
Shaffer opened the public hearing. Seeing and hearing no one he closed the public
hearing.
McAleese stated that the proposal is attractive and that he is in favor of it. He stated he
has some concerns about the traffic, but given the existing situation and the busy
intersection, anything going in at that site would cause problems with traffic. He stated
he is not opposed to the outdoor speakers being proposed at this location and stated
he has no strong objections to signs going in the upper part of the windows, but is
concerned about signs being placed all over the windows.
Grimes stated that the City can limit the applicant to just the sign bands that have been
proposed across the top of the windows and that no signs would be allowed below eight
feet. He mentioned that the staff is in the process of reviewing the sign ordinance.
MOVED by Groger, seconded by Eck, and motion carried unanimously to approve the
Conditional Use Permit which would allow for the existing gasoline service station, car
wash, and convenience store to be replaced with a gas station, coffee cafe, car wash,
and convenience store with the conditions that there be no signage in the windows
below seven feet, the speaker use is kept within a reasonable volume and are placed
on, or in the gas pumps and not overhead in the canopy, the site, building and
engineering plans submitted by BP Products North America Inc. shall become a part of
the approval, there are no limitations on hours of operation, the recommendations of
City Engineer Jeff Oliver, PE, as found in his memo to Mark Grimes dated Nov. 6, 2001
shall become a part of the approval, any signage for the building and site must meet the
signage requirements of City Code, all applicable state, local and federal requirements
shall be met including the City's building, landscaping and fire codes, outdoor lighting
shall be designed and used in such as way to minimize unnecessary light spillover, the
variances requested by BP Connect must be acted on by the Board of Zoning Appeals
before this recommendation is sent to the City Council for action
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IV. Informal Public Hearing - Minor Subdivision (SU 09-04)
Applicant: Joe Silitz, Mary Youngren, and Will Fisher
Address: Lots 21 & 22, Block 2 Spring Green, located at 609 and 613 Turnpike
Road, both in Golden Valley, MN
Purpose: The applicants are requesting a subdivision of the two parcels of
land in order to redraw the property line between these parcels.
This property line change will allow for driveway and retaining wall
encroachments to be corrected and for the property owner at 609
Turnpike Road to build a third stall garage.
Olson showed the location of the site and stated that the applicants want to redraw the
property line between their two properties to correct some driveway, shed and retaining
wall encroachments on their properties and to also allow the homeowner at 609
Turnpike to build a third stall on their existing garage without having to get variances.
He stated that one of the qualifications for a subdivision is that it must meet the
requirements of the appropriate zoning district so this proposal would require a variance
from the subdivision ordinance because there are nonconformities at each property.
He stated that atter the property lines are redrawn the only nonconformity at 609
Turnpike would be a shed that would not meet the accessory building requirements of
the Zoning Code and he recommended that the applicant be required to move it to
conform to the setback requirements. The nonconformities at 613 Turnpike include a
front yard setback that does not meet the required 35 feet and the north side yard
setback that does not meet the 15-foot requirement. He stated that staff is
recommending approval of the requested subdivision.
McAleese asked if the Planning Commission could attach conditions to a subdivision.
Grimes stated that generally the Planning Commission doesn't, but in this case it seems
to be a reasonable request. He stated that when the applicant comes in to get a
building permit for the garage he would also be told at that time that he would need to
move the shed as part of building permit procedure.
Rasmussen stated that it seems like a gain to City, because then the applicant wouldn't
require variances to build the garage. Grimes stated that if the property owner at 613
Turnpike ever wanted to add on to their house in the future, they would then need to go
to the Board of Zoning Appeals for variances. He stated that approving this proposal is
simply allowing the subdivision.
Shaffer opened the public hearing.
Will Fisher, 613 Turnpike Road, stated that the house is a cement block house, with
cement block floors so therefore, they can't really do anything to the house and they
don't intend to add on to it in the future.
MOVED by Eck, seconded Rasmussen and motion carried unanimously to approve the
requested minor subdivision with the following conditions: 1) The existing shed at 609
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Turnpike Road be relocated on the property to conform with Accessory Building setback
requirements in the Residential Zoning district. 2) The City Attorney will determine if
such a title review is necessary prior to approval of the final plat. 3) The Certificate of
Survey submitted by the applicants, dated October 17, 2001 shall become a part of this
approval.
v. Informal Public Hearing - Conditional Use Permit Amendment (CU-90-01)
Applicant: Auto Point, Ltd.
Address: 9130 Olson Memorial Highway, Golden Valley, MN
Purpose: This permit would amend the existing Conditional Use Permit to
allow for indoor sales of used automobiles in a Commercial zoning
district.
Olson showed the location of the site and stated that this request is to amend the
recently granted Conditional Use Permit to allow outdoor auto sales. He stated that this
request is to allow the indoor sale of twenty automobiles. He stated that the Deputy Fire
Marshal has reviewed the plans and feels it is feasible to display that number of
automobiles in the building. He.discussed the parking requirements and stated that they
are required to have 10 spaces, but are providing 15.
Eck stated there was an indication when they requested the original Conditional Use
Permit that they would want to provide an inside showroom and asked why this wasn't
requested originally and done in one action. Olson stated he didn't know the specific
reason why the applicant chose to wait but stated that he recommended to the
applicant to apply for both indoor and outdoor sales Conditional Use Permits at the
same time.
Rick Foreman, Applicant, stated that the reason they chose to wait is because they
were required to install a fire suppression system for the indoor showroom, which took
longer than they thought, but they wanted to open their business for outdoor sales and
not wait until the fire suppression system was installed.
McAleese asked the applicant what his plans were for signage in the windows.
Foreman stated that he has no intentions for indoor window signs and that they are
using the existing pylon sign. Groger asked if they were going to put signs on the cars.
Foreman stated that only the stickers will be on the cars, but no other signs will be on
the cars.
Shaffer opened the public hearing. Hearing and seeing no one he closed the public
hearing.
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Groger stated the conditions for approval should be taken from the original Conditional
Use Permit dated October 16, 2001 and not from Olson's memo dated November 7,
2001 due to the changes that were made since the original request.
MOVED by Groger, seconded by Rasmussen and motion carried unanimously to
approve the Conditional Use Permit request with the following conditions: 1) The site be
limited to the sale of 40 vehicles and that 15 spaces be designated for employee and
customer parking. 2) All signage meets the requirements of the City's sign ordinance.
There will be no signs displayed or painted in car windows. There will be no signs
painted or displayed from windows in the building. 3) The recommendation of Deputy
Fire Marshal Ed Anderson found in his memo to Dan Olson dated September 10, 2001
shall become a part of this approval. 4) The Building Official shall approve any
additional lighting of the site. Lighting shall be turned down after 8 pm. 5) No more than
8 employees shall work at the site due to parking constraints. 6) The hours of operation
for the sale of cars shall be limited to 9 am to 8 pm Monday-Saturday. There shall be no
sales of vehicles on Sunday. 7) No outside speakers shall be permitted on the site. 8)
All other applicable local, state, and federal requirements shall be met. 9) Failure to
comply with one or more of the above conditions shall be grounds for revocation of the
conditional use permit.
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VI. Reports on Meetings of the Housing and Redevelopment Authority, City
Council, Board of Zoning Appeals and other Meetings
McAleese discussed the City Council Meeting he attended on November 7,2001 and
stated the Council unanimously denied the request for a Conditional Use Permit by
Airport Taxi and Town Taxi.
VII. Other Business
A. Discussion of December 24, 2001 Planning Commission Meeting
The Planning Commission decided to cancel their December 24,2001 meeting.
VIII. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 8:41 pm.