03-28-05 PC Minutes
Regular Meeting of the
Golden Valley Planning Commission
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March 28, 2005
A regular meeting of the Planning Commission was held at the Golden Valley City Hall,
Council Chambers, 7800 Golden Valley Road, Golden Valley, Minnesota, on Monday,
March 28, 2005. Chair Keysser called the meeting to order at 7 pm.
Those present were Commissioners Cera, Eck, Hackett, Keysser, Rasmussen,
Schmidgall and Waldhauser. Also present were Director of Planning and Development,
Mark Grimes, Planning Intern, Aaron Hanauer and Administrative Assistant, Lisa
Wittman.
Chair Keysser welcomed David Cera as the newest member of the Planning Commission.
I. Approval of Minutes
March 7, 2005 Planning Commission Meeting
MOVED by Rasmussen, seconded by Waldhauser and motion carried unanimously to
approve the March 7, 2005 minutes as submitted.
II. Informal Public Hearing - PUD No. 91 Amendment #1 - Rudy Luther Toyota
Applicant: The Luther Company Limited Partnership
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Address:
8801, 8909 and 8989 Wayzata Blvd.
Purpose:
To allow for the demolition of the five existing buildings and the
construction of a new 70,000 square foot Toyota/Scion building and a
45,000 square foot Jaguar/Landrover building.
Grimes explained that the applicant is requesting an amendment to their existing PUD for
their property located at General Mills Blvd. and Miller Street. He stated that in May of
2001 the applicant had a PUD approved for their existing property in order to rebuild their
Toyota site. He added that as part of those plans, the right of way to the south was
vacated. He explained that their original plans were put off for a period of time because
Toyota's plans and products had changed. He stated that Luther Corporation has
purchased all the property from General Mills Blvd. over to Flag Avenue and their plan is
to completely demolish the existing Toyota building and the old school building, move
those operations temporarily to the other existing auto buildings while they construct a
new facility. Once the new facility is built they would tear down the other buildings and
create a new building for the Jaguar/Land Rover sales and services.
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Grimes referred to the site plans and discussed the setbacks. He noted that there will be
no setback to the parking lot along the north property line. He explained that this issue
was addressed when their original PUD was approved. There is still a 40 foot green area
between the north property line and the freeway wall so it seems to make sense to allow
them to have their parking lot go right to the north property line. However, there are still
easements along that north property line that would still need to be maintained. He
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referred to the southeast corner of the property and stated that they are proposing less
than the required 35 feet of green area setback space but that they are improving the
existing setback conditions because currently there are parts of the parking lot that go
right up to the property line. He stated that this is a fairly narrow site for a car dealership
and it has streets on two sides, but with a good landscape plan, it will be a good design
for this area. He referred to the western portion of the site, in front of the proposed Land
Rover building and stated that there is a display area for vehicles that goes into the 35
foot setback a little bit. He said the City also allowed the Audi dealership to the west to
have a small amount of display area, similar to this proposal. He referred to the west
property line and said there is a substantial green area however, they are planning to
build a small climbing hill feature that people would use when test driving the Land
Rovers. He stated that there has been some discussion between the applicant and the
Porsche/Audi dealership next to them about the landscaping and how it can be done and
stay sensitive to their needs.
Grimes discussed the parking on the site and noted that there are about 1,000 parking
spaces shown on the plans. He said the spaces can be used for displaying cars,
employee parking and customer parking or for cars waiting to be fixed. He said his
concern is that cars are parked in designated spaces, not in fire lanes or setback areas.
He said that the applicant feels they have adequate space to allow for customer parking
in front of their dealerships, adequate space for their employees and adequate space for
their inventory.
Grimes stated that the City Engineer's concerns regarding the use of MnDOT's pond to
the east have been addressed and that the applicant does have permission to use that
pond for water quality and rate control purposes.
Schmidgall referred to the City Engineer's concerns about the trash enclosure and the
lighting fixtures being in the MnDOT right of way. Grimes said that he has talked to the
architect about not locating the trash enclosure on the utility lines.
Keysser asked Grimes to discuss the access to the site. Grimes said the main access will
remain on General Mills Blvd. at the signal and that there are three driveways along Miller
Street. He said that staff has also talked to the applicant about having a sidewalk system
into the site.
Hackett asked Grimes to clarify what the City's guidelines are regarding green space for
the total development. Grimes stated that the PUD ordinance states that in commercial
developments at least 10% of the property needs to be green space. He stated that this
proposal is approximately 88% hard space and approximately 12% green space, so they
do meet the requirements.
Keysser stated that he didn't see any reference to excluding loudspeakers in this
proposal. Grimes said that is one of the standard requirements for car dealerships and
. that he will put language in the PUD Permit regarding loudspeaker use.
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Eck asked if people would be coming in toward the back of the building when they enter
from General Mills Blvd. Grimes said people would actually be looking more at the side of
the building when they enter from General Mills Blvd.
Keysser asked if people would be driving into residential areas when they test drive cars.
Grimes said that there haven't been any complaints from people in that area. He added
that most people probably get on 1-394 or stay on the frontage road when test driving
cars. He said if it were to become a problem, he would talk to the applicant.
Cera asked if the fire department issues have been addressed. Grimes said yes.
Keysser asked if there are any underground fuel tanks on the site. Grimes said he didn't
think so, but that is something the applicant could address.
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Jon Baker, Architect for the project, gave a brief history of the project and talked about the
design goals of Toyota and Land Rover/Jaguar. He stated that back in 2001 when the
PUD was approved the plans were done in anticipation of the frontage road adjacent to
1-394 being turned back to the property owners and it was the plan at that point to
demolish the small used car building, add a lot of service and showroom capacity to the
existing Toyota building and to remodel the third building for used car sales and storage.
He said shortly after the PUD approval they were informed by Toyota that they were
embarking on new image program that would have significant changes to what had been
done in the past. He stated the original PUD worked, but it was less then ideal, so they
waited until Toyota came out with their design guidelines, acquired the other properties to
the west and now they've got what they consider to be a very good master plan.
Baker discussed the dealership design overview and stated that the idea is to create an
entirely new retail automotive experience and that the design of the Toyota building
expresses Toyota's core values of quality, dependability and reliability. He said the result
according to Toyota is a comprehensive design bringing comfort, warmth, innovation and
authenticity to the Toyota selling, buying and servicing business. He stated that in
addition to the significant design work prepared and provided by the manufacturers, the
history, experience and depth of operational knowledge that the Luther Companies and
Baker Architects assures that this project will result in thoughtfully designed and well
constructed buildings.
Baker referred to the site plan and stated that it has been updated from the one Grimes
was referring to earlier. He pointed out the new location of the fire hydrants and the trash
enclosure and showed several elevations of the building interiors and exteriors. He
discussed the landscaping plan and the Land Rover test course and stated that there will
be a significant increase in the yard space around the buildings and a lot of energy and
illumination will be put into the entrance point at General Mills Blvd.
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Schmidgall referred to the applicant's narrative and asked about the term "bullpen". Baker
explained that the "Bullpen" is the area where the sales people have their own personal
work space and desks.
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Keysser asked if there are any underground tanks currently on the site. Baker said no, all
of the tanks that were there have been removed and they are in the process of doing
some environmental testing and that all the new tanks will be above ground.
Cera referred to the landscaping on the Audi dealership side of the test course and asked
what is going to happen in that area. Baker stated that the owners of the Carousel owners
did have some concerns about the test course being close to their property line. He said
that they have had conversations with them about putting some type of landscaping
between the test course and their property but that they have said they are in support of
this proposal.
Cera asked about the lighting on the site. Baker said the intention is to light the site
similar to the Carousel Audi property. He said they are hoping to do some more
decorative or architectural lighting at the entrance on General Mills Blvd. to delineate it as
something more exciting. Cera asked if they have looked into energy efficient lighting.
Baker said they are looking into that and that they will use the most sophisticated
available technology reasonable for this type of project.
Grimes stated that the cell tower currently located on the site will remain for the duration
of the lease.
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Rasmussen asked if the access to the Land Rover test track is only from the interior of
the lot. Baker said the only access to the test track would be from the inside of the lot.
Cera asked if the lot is secured at night. Baker said it would be blocked at night.
Hackett asked how pedestrians would get to this site and if there are sidewalk
connections to other areas in and around the site. Baker explained that there will be an
access connection from the park and ride adjacent to their property and there is a
sidewalk that goes all the way around the site. Grimes stated that the sidewalks in that
area are well used and suggested a connection to the sidewalk to the north on the
General Mills property. Baker said that it would not be a problem to do something with the
sidewalk connections.
Keysser opened the public hearing. Seeing and hearing no one, Keysser closed the
public hearing.
Waldhauser stated that this proposal meets the criteria for a PUD and fits nicely with what
they are trying to accomplish.
Rasmussen agreed and stated that is a well thought out plan.
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Eck stated that that this proposal is a significant improvement over what was originally
proposed and he would support recommending approval.
MOVED by Eck, seconded by Schmidgall and motion carried unanimously to recommend
approval of the request by The Luther Company Limited Partnership to allow for the
demolition of the five existing buildings and the construction of a new 70,000 square foot
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Toyota/Scion building and a 45,000 square foot Jaguar/Land Rover building with the
following conditions:
1. The Civil and Architectural Plan Packet (16 sheets) prepared by Baker Associates
and dated 2/11/05 shall become a part of this approval (subject to revisions required
by the City Engineer and Fire Marshal).
2. All recommendations and requirements set out in the Engineering Memo to Mark
Grimes from City Engineer Jeff Oliver, PE, and dated February 28, 2005 shall be
made a part of this approval. The Plan Packet must be revised in a manner consistent
with Mr. Oliver's memo prior to the plans going to the City Council for Preliminary
PUD Plan approval.
3. All recommendations and requirements set out in the memo from Assistant Fire
Marshal Ed Anderson to Mark Grimes dated February 22,2005 shall become a part
of this approval and the Plan Pack must be revised in a manner consistent with Mr.
Anderson's memo prior to the plans going to the City Council for Preliminary PUD
Plan approval.
4. The Building Board of Review, as part of the building permit process, must approve
the landscape plans.
5. All signage must meet the requirements for auto dealers in the Industrial zoning
district.
6. The existing cellular tower on the site may remain.
7. No outside speaker systems shall be used on the site.
III. Informal Public Hearing - Z011-11 Property Rezoning at 2548 Douglas Drive
North
Applicant: Amain Homes, Inc.
Address: 2548 Douglas Drive North
Purpose: To allow the property to be rezoned to R-2 (Two-Family Residential)
in order to construct two twin homes.
IV. Informal Public Hearing - SU11-Q7 Minor Subdivision at 2548 Douglas Drive
North
Applicant: Amain Homes, Inc.
Address:
2548 Douglas Drive North
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Purpose:
To allow the property to be subdivided into four lots in order to
construct two twin homes.
Grimes stated that these two agenda items are requests by Amain Homes to rezone and
subdivide the property located at 2548 Douglas Drive North. He stated that the applicant
was before the Planning Commission several months ago with a similar request but that
they withdrew their application when Hennepin County stated that they did not want to
see direct access to this property from Douglas Drive. He stated that since then, the
applicant has acquired the entire property and would like to construct two double homes
on this property. He referred to the Comprehensive Plan Map and stated that the property
is designated low density or less than five units per acre and that this proposal would
meet that requirement. He said he feels that the owner-occupied twin homes being
proposed would be appropriate for this area and a vast improvement over what is there
now.
Grimes referred to the site plans and pointed out that the garages will be located in the
back. He stated that these units will produce approximately 40 trips per day and that there
is plenty of capacity on the streets in that area for this use.
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Eck asked if the garages are single stall garages. Grimes said they are three stall
garages. Eck asked if there is any parking available for guests. Grimes said there isn't
any parking space designated for guests and that they would have to park in the
driveways because there is no parking on Medicine Lake Road or on Douglas Drive.
Waldhauser asked if guests could park along the access driveway. Grimes said that
would depend on if the driveway is posted as a fire lane.
Rasmussen said she didn't think there would be an issue with guest parking because
each unit has a three car garage and there would also be room for three or more cars in
the driveway. Grimes agreed and said he didn't think guest parking would be an issue.
Waldhauser asked what assures that these homes will be owner occupied. Grimes stated
that the developer is creating zero lot lines so that each unit can be sold individually but
that the units could be rented out.
Cera asked about the price range of the homes. Grimes said he didn't know and
suggested he ask the applicant.
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Keysser said he is concerned about adding more impervious surface and how that will
affect the grading and the run-off toward the homes to the east. Eck said that the City
Engineer's report said that shouldn't be a problem. Grimes added that the City Engineer
has said that with proper grading the proposal will work. He stated that the developer will
not be allowed to make any existing drainage conditions worse. Keysser stated that he is
still concerned and not convinced that this development won't make conditions worse.
Grimes stated that this development is not large enough to meet the requirements of the
watershed district for on-site ponding.
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. Rasmussen asked if this development will have to have curb and gutter. Grimes said no.
Waldhauser asked if the City knows what the homeowners to the east are experiencing
regarding drainage.
Grimes stated there is some minor ponding of water near the east property line, but all he
can do is go by what the City Engineer has said. Eck stated that there are no neighbors
present at this meeting so that tells him something.
Greg Comer and Walt Donnay, Amain Homes, Applicants, referred to the site plans and
explained that these proposed twin homes are going to be sold as single family homes for
approximately $339,000 per unit. Comer stated that each until will have separate
entrances on the side and private decks. Donnay added that the houses will be staggered
a little bit for privacy.
Keysser asked the applicants if there will be a homeowner's association. Donnay said
there will be an association to handle maintenance issues.
Keysser opened the public hearing.
Kathy Bell, 2520 Douglas Drive North, stated that her property is located directly to the
south of the proposed development. She said that the proposal sounds good to her and it
will increase her property value. She stated that the owners of the shopping center across
the street are real good about letting people park in their lot.
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Jim Bell, 2520 Douglas Drive North, stated that they have severe run-off across their
property every spring, but that he doesn't think this proposal will change much as far as
drainage.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak, Keysser closed the public hearing.
Waldhauser stated that she thinks this proposal would be an improvement over what is
currently located on the property.
Eck stated he thinks this is an appropriate property for rezoning to R-2.
MOVED by Hackett, seconded by Eck and motion carried unanimously to recommend
approval to allow the property located at 2548 Douglas Drive North to be rezoned to R-2
(Two-Family Residential) in order to construct two twin homes.
MOVED by Eck, seconded by Rasmussen and motion carried unanimously to
recommend approval to allow the property to be subdivided into four lots in order to
construct two twin homes with the following conditions:
1. The final plat will be consistent with the preliminary plat of Amain Addition prepared
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. 2. The comments in the memo from City Engineer Jeff Oliver, PE, to Mark Grimes,
Director of Planning and Development, dated March 23, 2005, shall become a part
of this approval.
3. A park dedication fee shall be paid prior to approval of the final plat by the City
council. The amount of the park dedication fee shall be determined prior to final plat
approval by the City Council upon recommendation by staff.
4. The final form of the "Declaration of Covenants, Restrictions and Conditions" shall
be submitted for approval by the City Attorney prior to approval of the final plat. The
cost of review of the "Declaration" shall be paid by Amain.
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V. Reports on Meetings of the Housing and Redevelopment Authority, City
Council, Board of Zoning Appeals and other Meetings
Keysser summarized the ideas discussed at their Envision meeting held before this
meeting and asked Grimes what they should be doing regarding identifying
neighborhoods. Grimes said he would start researching various cities and how they
identified their neighborhoods.
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VI. Other Business
Keysser reminded the Commissioners that there is a kick-off meeting planned for the
1-394 Corridor Study on April 25.
VII. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 8:30 pm.
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