11-22-1982OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION COMMISSION
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF NOVEMBER 22, 1982
The regular meeting was called to order at 7:35 P.M. at Brookview
Community Center by Chairman Burmeister. Commission members present
were: Johnson, Kahlow, Murad, Scanlon, and Younghans. Also present
were Rosemary Thorsen, Mayor; Raymond Stockman, Council Member;
Charles Corlett, Program and Policy Superintendent; Debbie
Halvorson, Commission Secretary; Tom Klatt, Park Maintenance
Superintendent; and Kris Tovson, Golf and Recreation Division Staff.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Murad moved that the Minutes of the October 25, 1982, Meeting be
approved as written. Younghans seconded. Motion passed.
OLD BUSINESS
1. Review and Update _ Open Space Management_Program
Tom Klatt gave a brief history of the Open Space Management
Report he submitted to the City Manager and Council in
September and reviewed for the Commission the contents of
that report.
Burmeister asked Klatt to explain the grids which were
compiled within the report. In response, Klatt stated that
the grids were to show the level of accomplishment of each
item in the original plan. Klatt further explained to the
Commission that the Council had expressed the concern of no
activity in this area as the expenditures had been very
limited. He further stated that his review was a look at
the complete plan and an indication of accomplishments,
such as the donation of 200 trees by the Minnesota Tree
Trust and use of their personnel. He expressed that the
Commission should review and update the plan.
Johnson inquired about the amount of money appropriated for
the Open Space Management Plan. Corlett reviewed for the
Commission that capital improvements funds are appropriated
by the Council annually and that the projects are identi-
fied for a five year time period. He reviewed quickly the
last two years of the capital program as it relates to the
Open Space Management Plan, stating that capital dollars
may be balanced forward for a project. Johnson asked if we
are in danger of losing the money if we don't use it.
Corlett informed the Commission that we should continue to
identify the Open Space Managment Plan until its completion
and then review the funds for possible continuance of the
program within the capital improvements structure.
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Burmeister asked if the report included a revised plan.
Klatt indicated that there was no revised plan included in
the report and that he had only attempted to review the
progress of the existing plan. He restated that it would
be important for the Commission to review and update the
Open Space Management Plan on a regular basis, making
necessary changes as progress is made. Burmeister
responded that perhaps a later agenda item, such as
Commission Subcommittee Assignments, could include such a
review.
Further discussion by the Commission reached the consensus
that the Open Space Management Plan should be reviewed and
recommendations made to the Council.
Mary Hills - Concept Plan for Return to Open Space
Tabled.
NEW BUSINESS
1. Brookview Golf Update
Chairman Burmeister introduced to the Commission Kris
Tovson to give the oral review of the information in the
agenda package. Tovson gave a brief review of the golf
operations status, including her position which begins in
1983 as Pro Shop Manager. Her areas of responsibilities
will be supervision of the Pro Shop and Grill Operations.
She informed the Commission of the progress which has been
made in selecting a new Greens Superintendent for the golf
operations. Tovson indicated that the golf staff is
looking forward to the 1983 season with a very positive
attitude as a result of the accomplishments in 1982.
She reviewed for the Commission the data contained in the
report by Todd Christensen, Golf Manager, showing the round
comparisons from 1981 to the 1982 season. Further review
included the revenue collected in 1982 and areas where
explanation of data was necessary. Younghans inquired what
the staff felt would be the total rounds in the 1983
season. Tovson replied that the staff felt 40,000 rounds
could be reached in the 1983 season with the cooperation of
Mother Nature. She further indicated that the staff is
involved in the development of a marketing plan to increase
the rounds played at the Brookview Golf Course.
Burmeister thanked Kris Tovson for her presentation.
2. Commission Charge__ Mayor Thorsen, Councilman Stockman
Chairman Burmeister welcomed Rosemary Thorsen, Mayor, and
Raymond Stockman, Council Member, and stated that the
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purpose of their desire to meet with the Commission is to
review the Council's charge to the Commission.
After a brief introduction, Mayor Thorsen pointed out that
she desired to discuss two areas of concern. The first
being the Commission's charge and the second being the
relationship of the specially assigned ad hoc committees
which deal with special interest areas.
With regard to the Commission's charge, the Mayor stated
that her and Councilman Stockman's intentions while
constructing the charge were to give the Commission
parameters; yet leave the charge broad enough to gain by
each Commission member's talents. Mayor Thorsen informed
the Commission that the construction of the charge was to
deal with specific areas and be inclusive of long-range
planning in these areas.
Mayor Thorsen reviewed with the Commission each area within
the charge, asking for discussion of any questionable items
from the Commission. Discussion of each item went as
follows:
a. Periodically Revise the Comprehensive Plan. The Mayor
asked that the Commission be involved in the continuous
updating and revising of this document. She made the
Commission aware of the community's legal responsibil-
ity to maintain a comprehensive plan which is consis-
tent with the Metropolitan Council's Comprehensive
Plan, stating that if the Metropolitan Council deems a
particular land use within a community, it is the
community's responsibility to conform to that particu-
lar usage.
b. Development of Policy and Plans. Mayor Thorsen
expressed the Council's need to have input from the
Commission in the area of policy and planning for
parks and recreation within the community.
C. Prepare and Periodically Update Assessments of Current
Programs. Mayor Thorsen and Councilman Stockman
expressed the need to have updated information on the
existing programs.
d. Prepare and Periodically Update Assessments of Future
Needs. Mayor Thorsen expressed that the Commission's
role should be to assess future needs.
e. Advise the Council on Policy and Cooperative
Agreements. Mayor Thorsen expressed that it is the
Commission's role to deal with the groups within the
City who have interests and use public park facili-
ties.
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f. Advise Council on Policy Matters of Budget and Capital
Outlay. Mayor Thorsen stated that this was an area
where the Council has not been able to define for
themselves the Commission's role. It is the City
Manager's responsibility to construct budgets. The
Commission inquired if there was an area of high
interest to the Commission should it not approach the
Council to express possible disagreement with proposed
budgets? However, citizen's input into the budgetary
process is important and must be further looked at by
the Council. Councilman Stockman expressed that the
Commission's role was advisory to the Council and that
the Commission's concerns in programming areas may be
expressed. However, the role of the Commission is not
to control the amounts contained within the City's
budget. Kahlow stated that it is important for the
Commission to be included in the budgetary process and
that the final decisions rest with the Council.
Burmeister expressed that this past year the Commission
was kept informed through the budgetary process.
Councilman Stockman and Mayor Thorsen called attention
to the current deficit status within the state and
expressed fear of how this deficit will be approached.
Ad Hoc Committees
Mayor Thorsen expressed to the Commission the Council's
feeling with regard to assignments of special "ad hoc"
committees. She indicated that often the need for inten-
sive examination of an issue calls for special interested
individuals to be included on committees, citing the
example of the Community Center Solicitation Committee.
Discussion of the pros and cons of establishing such
committees followed. General discussion followed con-
cerning the Commission's reflecting the Council and the
people and how everyone is involved in order to have a
better community.
Chairman Burmeister thanked
Stockman for taking the time
and to discuss these areas.
the Commission to call upon
the need to.meet together.
COMMITTEE REPORTS
Mayor Thorsen and Councilman
to meet with the Commission
Councilman Stockman invited
the Council whenever it felt
1. Community Center Solicitation Update
Burmeister updated the Commission of the discussions by the
Solicitation Committee regarding three possibilities for
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the Community Center. These are Sandburg Junior High,
Olson Elementary and the upgrading of the existing facil-
ity. He expressed that Sandburg was still the best of the
above choices; however, it appears to be three to five
years away.
Corlett stated that it is the Committee's feeling that a
Community Center is still an important item even in line of
current state deficits. Johnson asked for clarification
concerning building our own facility. It was stated that
it is the feeling that there would not be the ability to
construct a new facility because of current economic condi-
tions.
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT
1. Commission Subcommittee Assiqnments
Kahlow moved to accept the stated written
recommendations for Commission Subcommittee
Assignments as presented by the Chair. Murad
Seconded.
The subcommittees are as follows:
Open Space
Recreation Golf /Brookview
Jennifer Kahlow Martha Micks George Murad
Dede Scanlon Emilie Johnson Rhoda Jaffe
Charles Burmeister *Hal Younghans *Hal Younghans
* Until the Council appoints a new member to fill the now
vacant position, and due to Hal Younghans being
Chairperson of the Team Sports Facilities Committee, it
would be helpful if Younghans could serve on both the
Recreation and Golf Subcommittees.
The Commission discussed the recommended Committee
Assignments and called the question. Motion passed
unanimously.
2. Burmeister informed the Commission that at the recent
Minnesota Recreation and Park Association State Conference
Charles Corlett, Program and Policy Superintendant of
Golden Valley, received the Jack Niles Award. This award
is given to a professional member with less than 10 years
membership who has displayed outstanding work in the field
of parks and recreation within the State of Minnesota. The
Commission congratulated Charles Corlett.on receiving this
award.
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3. Burmeister called the Commission's attention to a recent
article concerning Golden Valley's parks in the Golden
Valley Post.
DEPARTMENT REPORT
1. Roof Bids
Corlett informed the Commission that the shelter re -roofing
project will be rebid. It was necessary to recommend
refusal of all bids due to one bidder's alteration of the
bid proposal form and other bidders were over appropriated
dollars. Specifications are being rewritten for publica-
tion. Bid opening will be December 2, 1982.
2. Review of Recreation Revenues/Expenditures
Corlett presented an update of the recreation expenditures
and revenues in written form. Johnson inquired about
tennis rental revenues. It was explained that these
revenues came from court rental for Brookview to groups not
sponsored by the Parks and Recreation Department.
3. December Meeting
The Commission discussed the date of a December meeting and
made the following motion:
Kahlow moved that the next meeting be held
January 3. Murad seconded. Motion carried.
The Commission asked the staff to inform the Council and
City Manager's office of this change for proper posting.
4. Community Center Policy Review
1983 Rental Rates
The staff presented a Community Center Policy Update for
1983.
Discussion went as follows: Younghans asked about the
paragraph concerning user group liability (4. Liability).
It was explained that the staff advises groups to secure
liability insurance whenever alcoholic beverages will be
served. This may be done through dram shop insurance or
through other forms of liability insurances. Younghans
asked if this is true for use by the BMGA. Corlett stated
yes.
Younghans asked about change in curfew hours (7. Curfew
for Use) and if this would effect the cost of police
supervision for evening events. Corlett stated that it was
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felt that the one-half hour difference would not have an
effect on such an event. He further stated it is the
purpose of the change to establish a reasonable closing
time to which user groups can relate.
Younghans asked about the new page contained within the
policy which dealt with city employee's rental of the
Community Center. Corlett informed the Commission that
city employees may rent Brookview under this policy.
However, it is the employee's responsibility to set up,
supervise, and clean up their event. He further stated
that employees must follow all regulations and pay police
fees for their event.
Kahlow moved to recommend to the Council the
approval of the Proposed Policy For Use Of
Brookview Community Center - 1983 as written.
Johnson seconded. Motion unanimously passed.
Corlett requested that this policy be submitted with the
golf course policies and rates which will be completed soon.
ADJOURNMENT
Johnson moved the meeting adjourned. Kahlow seconded. Motion was
unanimously passed. The meeting was adjourned at 10:05 P.M.
Chairman Burmeister
Vice Chairperson Micks