3-21-1983OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION COMMISSION
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 21, 1983
The regular meeting was called to order at 7:30 P.M. at the
Brookview Community Center by Chairman Burmeister. Commission
members present were: Jaffe, Johnson, Kahlow, Murad, Scanlon,
Watson, and YounghaAs, Also present were Charles Corlett, Program
and Policy Superintendent; Debbie Halvorson, Commission Secretary;
and Tom Klatt, Park Maintenance Superintendent.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Murad moved the Minutes of the February 28, 1983, Meeting be
approved with the following correction:
Page 3, Community Center Drawings, first paragraph, last
line, take out the quotes around the word "lovely".
Younghans seconded. Motion passed.
INTRODUCTION OF NEW MEMBER
Chairman Burmeister introduced to the Commission Mary Kay Watson.
Mary Kay Watson shared briefly with the Commission some of her
oxperiences in community organizations, work with -schools, and her
family.
OLD BUSINESS
1. Agreement with YMCA
Corlett reviewed for the Commission the agreement form worked
out between the Northwest Branch of the YMCA and the City of
Golden Valley staff and stated the Council would like to take
action on this matter at their April 5 meeting.
His review included answers to the questions raised at the
February Commission meeting, i.e. inclement weather refunds.
Corlett explained the City's contribution to the program budget
and how this contribution would be made. He further pointed out
the flexibility which the City had in negotiating participation
levels and program changes. Burmeister inquired whether $2,150
was the maximum contribution the City would need to make.
Corlett replied the staff was prepared budgetarily to go beyond
the $2,150 figure in order to operate locations which may not
reach minimum registration. At this time he estimated that
approximately $3,500 could be expended in the operation of this
program.
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Scanlon
about by children not registered and
asked
whether they
participation
would be rejected from program activities. Corlett
replied that
there was no ability for daily fees; however,
registration
was ongoing and that children would be allowed to
remain at the
activities for the first day. Scanlon inquired
further about
overlapping'of this program with T -Ball, Little
Critters and
sb,ftball. It was stated that the starting times
for activities
have been adjusted to allow more time between
events such as
Little Critters and K -League programs. Thi's will
help eliminate
instructors from having to rush from one activity
to the next.
He further felt that the program could operate
concurrently
at each of the park sites in a similar fashion as
did the previous
playground program and the individual
activities.
Jaffe expressed concern that disbursing of activities such as
this may lead to the program's being less personable to the
residents of Golden Valley. Burmeister stated that the City was
simply contracting this service to another organization.
Corlett pointed out that this type of program is similar -'to our
cooperating with other communities in order to continue to offer
activities in as economical a manner as possible. Jaffe asked
if this is the only way we can maintain a high quality program
in our parks to give the best service to the most children for
the least amount of money. Corlett answered,.:•that he felt this
was the best way to continue to provide playground activities
for the community.
Further discussion included levels of participant and staff
supervision. Corlett stated that supervision levels would
probably remain the same and reiterated that he felt this was a
good direction for the community to go. He further pointed'out
that no other community has contracted for services; however,
some metropolitan communities are currently charging a sub-
stantial fee.
Burmeister asked if there were any farther questions and 11*A,* 1111;
none asked for a motion regarding tree agreament with the YMCA.
Kahlow moved to recommend to the Council the
acceptance of the YMCA AVreement. Johnson seconded.
Jaffe asked what the advantages to such an agreement were.
Corlett pointed out that this type of program would be more
economical to the City, there would be additional hours of
operation and during the first year the enthusiasm of both
organizations to make the agreement work will help in the area
of supervision. Johnson asked if the Commission would be
involved in the evaluation of the program. Corlett felt that
this was certainly possible and would be willing to have the
Commission participate in the evaluation of the program.
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Burmeister called the question. Motion carried with one
a:.)stention.
2. Comm. niity Center Remodeling
Corlett reviewed for the Commission the proposed remodeling
schedule and pd�nted out the difficulty of bringing all items
before the Commission for review and asked the Commission -to
allow Chairman Burmeister to represent the Commission in review-
ing the proposals made by Toltz, King, Duvall and Anderson
(TKDA) at the Brookview Solicitation Committee Meeting on
April 11 for that Committee's recommendations to the Council on
April 12.
Johnson asked how the Community Center remodeling would be
financed. Corlett stated that the financing will be accumulated
through the capital improvements program using several of the
existing capital funds.
Further discussion included the Commission's concern for'"eloca-
tion of the recreation programs during the remodeling period and
background of the architectural firm for the project. -
Kahlow moved that the Commission
Burmeister to be its spokesperson
specific plans to be recommended
for final approval.
Murad seconded. Motion passed.
NEW BUSINESS
appoint Chairman
to review the
to the City Council
I. needing of Ducks, Geese on Public Lands
Chairman Burmeister introduced to the Commission the topic of
feeding ducks and geese on public lands and reviewed a recent
complaint he has received. He reviewed the staff's survey of
several communities within the state who also experience large
cluck and geese populations and how those communities handle or
live with these bird populations. Corlett reviewed some of the
comments made by the contact people within various communities
and pointed out that the Minneapolis program to remove ducks and
geese from the Lake of the Isles area was on a one time program.
He sheared with the Commission some of the characteristics of the
problem and potential solutions. He further pointed out that
because the habitat.is the primary contributor to the size of a
flock and the artificial feeding is secondary that the only way
to eliminate the populations from its present situation is to
change the habitat.
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Further discussion included the large population at Brookview
Golf Course and the effects it has on the play of golf. The
Commission concluded that the complaint received was one that
was self -initiated and felt that it would not be necessary to
take any action at this time. Chairman Burmeister will send a
letter to the +individual explaining the Commission's position.
2. Election of Officers
Chairman Burmeister announced the election of Commission
officers for 1983. Positions are Chairperson and Vice
Chairperson. Burmeister opened the nominations for Chairperson. t
Jaffe nominated Charles Burmeister. Johnson seconded. Murad
moved to close the nominations. Scanlon Seconded. The vote was
made and Charles Burmeister was elected Chairperson for 1983.
Chairman Burmeister opened nominations for Vice Chairperson.
Johnson nominated Hal Younghans. Scanlon seconded. Murad moved
to close the nominations. Jaffe seconded. The vote was made
and Hal Younghans was elected Vice Chairperson for 1983.
CHAIRM;"N' S REPORT
1, Council Items - April 5, 1983
Chairman Burmeister informed the Commission that he will be
presenting the previous Commission motions for Change in Park
Use Policy and Capital Improvements for 1983 - 1987 at the
April 5 Council Meeting.
2, Spring Park Tour
The Commission will tour the open space management sites in
early May. Date to be announced at the April Commission Meeting.
3. Softball
Chairman Burmeister informed the Commission of recent contact he
has had with Lee Novak who is a representative of the amateur
softball association in the State'of Minnesota, and Mr. Novak's
desire to make a presentation of the above organization's pro-
gram at the softball manager meetings. He asked Corlett to
review a survey taken of the metropolitan area community
recommending affiliation and determinatioh,of what organizations
the community program would affiliate with. Corlett explained
to the Commission the background of the organizations in the
State of Minnesota which operate post -season tournament programs
for local communities. He reviewed how the suburban metropoli-
tan communities determine the organization which they will
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affiliate with and pointed out that the community staff over-
whelmingly makes this determination. He reviewed for the
Commission how the program has been operated and the past
operations of the softball manager's meetings. Younghans asked
about the dues structure of the two organizations within the
state. Corlet� indicated that the ASA program is $12 and the
USSSA is $15 per team. Burmeister thanked Corlett for the
information. No action taken.
DEPARTMENT ITEMS
1. Revenues vs. Expenditure Report
'Fabled to April Meeting.
Burmeister asked Klatt if he had any departmental items to be
discussed. Klatt responded by informing the Commission of his
working contact with Andy Lindquist, the new greens super-
intendent, and felt that Lindquist would be able to do a good
job and improve the maintenance of the Golf Course. •Younghans
a(jreed with Klatt and relayed the feelings of the Men, 's Club
that Lindquist would be a hard worker and is a knowledgeable
greens superintendent.
Alit OU RNMENT
Burmeister asked if there were any other items of business to
di6cuss. There being none, the Meeting was adjourned at 9:05 P.M.
Chairman,Burmeister
Vice Chairman Younghans