9-26-1983OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION COMMISSION
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 26, 1983
The regular. Meeting was called to order at 7:32 P.M. at the
Brookview Community Center By Chairman Burmeister. Commission
members present were: Johnson, Kahlow, McDonald, Murad, and
Watson. Also present were Sue Cook, Program Supervisor; Charles
Corlett, Program and Policy Superintendent; Debbie Halvorson,
Commission Secretary; Tom Klatt, Park Superintendent; and Andy
Lindquist, Golf Director.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Johnson moved the Minutes of the August 22, 1983, Meeting be
approved with the following corrections:
Throughout the Minutes "Emily" should be "Emilie" and "Kimball".
should be "Kimble".
Watson seconded. Motion passed.
SPECIAL AGENDA ITEM
1. Award to Diane Kimble
Chairman Burmeister and Charles Corlett presented Miss Diane
Kimble with an award for outstanding athletic achievement for
winning a silver medal in the swimming competition of the
National Cerebral Palsy Games held in Texas. Miss Kimble
accepted the plaque and thanked the Commission and Community for
its support. Mr. Kimble expressed his appreciation to the
Commission members for their regognition of Diane's achieve-
ment. Additionally, _ imbal thanked the Commission and -
expressed the family's pride in Diane.
OLD BUSINESS
1. Summer Recreation Program Report
a. General Programs
Sue Cook reviewed for the Commission the participation in
the summer activities. Additionally, she informed the
Commission of the operating procedures and general informa-
tion of each activity. Cook informed the Commission that
the recreation staff will be enhancing several of the
traditional activities in the 1984 season. These activi-
ties include Pee Wee/Midget Softball and the August Special
Events for Youth. She further informed them of the changes
in the aerobic exercise program offered to adults. These
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changes were basically in name and minor adjustments in the
exercises. Further discussion of the general activities
included the tennis program operation, which the staff
recommended that there be fewer classes offered in order to
condense the scheduling. Additionally, it was discussed
that some challenge style tournaments be offered with the
instruction program.
Corlett informed the Commission of the Department's -
relationship with the various youth athletic organizations
and generally the operation of the programs. He further
discussed with the Commission the operation of the adult
softball program. Burmeister asked Corlett to enlighten
the Commission of the many outstanding achievements within
the Golden Valley athletic programs. Corlett informed the
Commission that five teams had advanced beyond the City's
program and had achieved top ranking within the state and
national softball programs. Burmeister pointed out that
the awards being given by the City Council shows the teams
that the City feels recreation is an important element
within the City.
Watson asked if.this would be the proper time to discuss
some elements of the fall soccer program. She informed the
Commission of some complaints she had heard recently from
parents involved in the program. The staff responded to
the complaints stating that they would deal immediately
with the coaching problems and encourage more practices for
the teams. A brief discussion of turf care followed.
b. Pool Use Report
Corlett reviewed for the Commission the written attendance
report for 1981 through 1983 for the pool season, pointing
out that each year it appears that the'pool is closed for
approximately the same amount of time due to weather and
each year it appears that one day is lost due to break
downs within the pool system. He 'stated that the limited
down time due to break downs is a tribute to the diligent
efforts of the park maintenance crew that assures the pool
mechanically operates well. He further,reviewed the 1983
summer report pointing out that attendance in 1983 was
higher than in 1982 and that revenues would be up slightly;
however, expenditures will be significantly higher due to
the need for additional maintenance efforts.
It was discussed that the datea included in the written
report were in error and should read June 9 through
August 21.
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Watson inquired as to why the season was so short. Corlett
responded that the closing was at the same time as the
Crystal and New Hope pools,' while St. Louis Park continued
to operate their pool through Labor Day.
YMCA Program
The staff discussed with the Commission the summer play-
ground program offered by the YMCA pointing out that the
planning, publicity, and staff selection for the program
were excellent and that the failure of the program was
primarily due to the lack of participant registration for
the program. Johnson inquired if the registration fee was
a deterrent for people to register in the program. Cook
responded that the fee was part of the reason and that most
of the responses received from residents indicated that
they did not like having an outside agency operating the
program and that they would possibly be willing to pay
reasonable fees if the City were to operate the program in
the future. Corlett also stated that the fee structure was
amended to allow for daily payment for registration and
that this had no effect on participation. Further dis-
cussion included the concept of having to register and a
feeling of obligation to attend when a fee is paid versus
how the City previously operated the program where children,
could come whenever it was convenient for the family.
Johnson inquired as to how the YMCA has responded to this
year's operation and asked if the YMCA was interested in
continuing to operate the playground program. Corlett
stated that the YMCA would be willing to operate the pro-
gram again and that a 1984 general proposal was included in
its summary evaluation. Corlett informed the Commission
that the YMCA will base its fees for 1984 on a similar
program as that of 1983'and that they will expect the City
to guaranty a minimum of $3,500 for the program operation.
He further stated that the YMCA staff representative would
be present later to review with the Commission the program.
The Commission went on to other business and upon arrival
of David Maghakian the Commission returned to the summer
playground agenda item.
Chairman Burmeister introduced David Maghakian to the
Commission and asked David to present the YMCA report on
summer playgrounds. Maghakian reviewed the written report
for the Commission pointing out the low participation and
difficulty in trying to operate planned activities with so
few children. He informed the Commission of the many
efforts made by the YMCA, Golden Valley, and playground
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staffs to promote additional registration within the
program and the changes in fee structure which were made in
response to input received from residents. He further
reviewed some of the operational problems, including a
decision to use private vehicles for transporting partici-
pants on field trips which resulted in overloading of a
vehicle. He informed the Commission that the YMCA carried
special liability insurance so that leaders could use their
cars for transporting of participants.
Maghakian reviewed the YMCA's recommendation to continue
operating the program in which he stated the fee would be
reduced as would be the number of days per week the program
would be operated and that the use of public transportation
vehicles would be guaranteed.
Burmeister stated that the Commission would be reviewing
all 1984 summer recreation programs in either February or
March and that a recommendation for playground programs
would be considered at that time. He thanked David for
coming to the Commission Meeting.
2. Community Awards Program
Burmeister informed the Commission of the Council's response to
the Commission's motion regarding an awards program. He stated
that the Council responded very favorably and felt that -such a
program needed to have criteria developed and that it should be
expanded to include other Commissions, departments, etc.
Murad asked whether there should be one award or many various
degrees of awards and stated that if too many such awards were
developed they could become less meaningful. General discussion
included that the Commission should deal only in the areas of
Park and Recreation and that guidelines would need to be
developed and followed. Watson raised the question of a need
for criteria to give awards. Burmeister stated that the Council
had asked us to develop such criteria and that the Commission
needs the Council's approval in order to represent the City in
giving awards. Burmeister stated the Chair would solicit
members to serve on a subcommittee for development of awards
criteria. Watson volunteered to work on this subcommittee.
3. Minnaqua Drive Walkway Update
Chairman Burmeister asked the staff to update the Commission on
the Minnaqua Drive Walkway. Corlett informed the Commission
that the Engineering Department has presented the bridge
structure to the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) for its
approval. The project must be reviewed by the DNR as it deals
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with the Bassetts Creek Watershed. It is felt that the DNR will
approve the bridge and price quotes are being solicited. He
further stated that the Engineering Department and the Park and
Recreation Department have had discussions including the
materials to be used for bridge footings., Corlett stated that
the Engineering Department checked whether it -would be
economically feasible to install culverts and a earthen creek
crossing. He stated that the cost of installing culverts would
be extremely high and could exceed $80,000. Burmeister called
attention to a letter from Dr. Richard Streu expressing concern
that the bridge be installed for pedestrian crossing of Bassetts
Creek.
NEW BUSINESS
1. Park,Light Policy
Burmeister asked Tom Klatt to review for the Commission the
lighting uses in the parks and the problems. Klatt reviewed for
the Commission the general operating procedures of lighting for
play areas, walkways and parking lots during each season of the
year. He stated that the current ordinance maintains that parks
close at 10 p.m. which is why the play area lighting is turned
off at this time.- He asked the Commission for input in
developing a city-wide park lighting policy which the staff
could follow. General discussion pointed out that park lighting
has many uses i.e. saftey, prevention of vandalism and also the
encouragment of use. Corlett stated -that often different
residents within a neighborhood complain when lights are on or
off and that several of these complaints are in direct conflict
with each other. The staff gave several examples where this
type of conflict occurs. McDonald stated that the park
ordinance should be the guideline used for park lighting.
Chairman Burmeister asked the staff to recommend a park lighting
policy for the Commission to review at the October meeting.
2. 1984-1988 Capital Improvements Plan
Corlett reviewed for the Commission the agenda for the.1984
through 1988 Capital Improvements Plan. He further reviewed the
current 1983 through 1987 Plan pointing out the status of each
project. Corlett pointed out the relationship between the
current Capital Improvements Plan and the Council's action
regarding the rehabilitation of the Brookview Community Center.
He stated that the Commission and staff would need to develop a
two -fold Capital Improvements Plan to allow the Council the
flexibility needed in funding the Brookview Community Center
remodeling. Burmeister inquired what the 1983 extended balance
forward would be from the current Plan. Corlett stated that due
to incompletion of projects, savings realized through current
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contracts and the use of the Tree Trust should leave an addi-
tional $50,000 to $60,000 in the balance forward of the Park
Capital Improvements Plan.
In summary, Chairman Burmeister stated that it is the staff's
responsibility to prepare the Park Capital Improvement Plan
recommendation and that the Commission will review the staff's
recommendations at the October Meeting for recommendation to the
Council in November.
COMMITTEE REPORTS
1. Sports Facilities Committee
Corlett informed the Commission that the Council received the
Commission's recommendation for purchase of the Lupient property
along with the purchase of the Good Shepard property. He stated
that the Council action was to have the staff further investi-
gate the availabilities of the properties.
2. Brookview Improvements Committee
Murad updated the Commission of the Brookview Improvements
Committee's work and the recent Council action regarding the
implementation of plans to correct the water problems and soil
problems on the golf course. He displayed for the -Commission a
brochure describing fabric used in soil stabilization and stated
that the City Engineer has recommended the use of this type of
material for the upgrading of the fairways at Brookview. Murad
stated that at this time, all golf course improvements were
dependent on funding available through the City's balance for-
ward funds. The availability of these funds are dependent on
the City's bonding companies recommendations regarding the
effect using such funds may have on the City's ability to sell
bonds in the future. ,
Further discussion indicated that the Brookview Golf Course and
park area will again have a large population of geese. In
summary, it was stated that this will probably be an annual
problem for the area. Lindquist stated that the plastic swans
are effective only if the swans are motorized or manually moved
periodically so the goose population does not realize that the
swans are only decoys. .Crc vvia-i a,u�Tvao-Ci[tezT����rt ,ua
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT
1. Hennepin County_Park District Funding - Public Hearing
Burmeister informed the Commission of his and Councilman
Stockman's attendance at the Hennepin County Park District
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Funding Public Hearing held in New Hope. Councilman Stockman
reported to the City Council recommending the funding to stay
the same as it is currently. Burmeister further informed the
Commission that it was felt that the problem will continue until
a higher level of government addresses the issue.
2. Council Actions - Community Center and Brookview Pool
Chairman Burmeister gave a brief explanation of the recent
Council actions regarding the Community Center and Brookview
Pool improvements and stated that the information contained in
the recent article in the Golden Valley Post was accurate.
3. City Manager's Resignation
Chairman Burmeister informed the Commission that City Manager
Jeff Sweet will be leaving the City's employment on -December 2.
DEPARTMENT REPORT
1. Golf Operations
Lindquist reviewed for the Commission the updated revenue and
expenditures projections for Brookview Golf Course. Lindquist
also reviewed for the Commission the report contained in the
Brookview Improvements Committee Minutes pointing out the
various costs for the improvements to the golf course and the
projected effect on revenues during said improvements.
2. Park Maintenance
Klatt explained to the Commission the Fall maintenance programs,
including the extended mowing season due to weather conditions.
He pointed out the difficulties the Department is experiencing
at the Glenview Terrace location due to the poor mowing
schedules of the Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board. (Photos
were circulated.) He further stated that the park staff is
preparing areas for the winter season and that it is felt that
the summer of 1983 has been a good season for the park crew.
Accomplishments have been made in several of the planned
projects.
3. Lions Park Tennis Courts
Burmeister asked the staff to explain to the Commission the
problems encountered in the resurfacing of the Lions Park tennis
courts. Corlett reviewed generally the problem of blistering
after the resurfacing had been completed. He further went on to
give a detailed review of the actions which have been taken and
stated that the staff received the reports from Twin City
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Testing which have not yet been reviewed. He stated that the
staff will make a recommendation to the City Manager after the
reports have been studied. Further discussion regarded
warranties, possible legal implications, and some general
methods for correcting the problem.
4. Expenditures/Revenues
Corlett reviewed for the Commission the written Revenues vs.
Expenditures Report.
ADJOURNMENT
The Meeting was adjourned at 10:06 P.M.
Chairman Burmeister
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