10-27-2003 (Joint meeting with Environmental Commission)a:11ey
OPEN SPACE & RECREATION COMMISSION
and
GOLDEN VALLEY ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION
Joint Meeting
Golden Valley City Hall, 7800 Golden Valley Road
Council Conference Room
Monday, October 27, 2003
7:00 PM
CALL TO ORDER
Meeting called to order at 7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present: Open Space & Recreation Commission - Jerry Sandler, Jim Vaughan, Roger
McConico, Tom Kuelbs, and Lance Ness. Environmental Commission - Rich Baker,
Sue Hess, Alan Kuentz, Sara Peterson, and Dawn Hill. South Tyrol Neighborhood -
Ken Huber, Jim Ladner, and Bob Provost. Jupe Hale and Pete Willenbring from WSB
and Associates. Sherri Buss from Bonestroo, Rosene and Anderlik.
City Staff: Rick Jacobson, Director of Parks & Recreation; Tom Klatt, Public Works Maintenance
Manager; Jeff Oliver, City Engineer; Jeannine Clancy, Director of Public Works; and
Sheila Van Sloun, Parks & Recreation Administrative Assistant.
Absent: Open Space & Recreation Commission — Chuck Cahill, Liz Elder, Jim Johnson, and
Tom Zins. Environmental Commission — John Giese and Joel Wessman.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES — September 22, 2003
EC MOTION: Moved by Dawn Hill, seconded by Sara Peterson, to approve the minutes of the
September 22nd meeting. Motion carried.
OSRC MOTION: Moved by Roger McConico, seconded by Lance Ness, to approve the minutes of
the September 22" meeting. Motion carried.
GENERAL MILLS WETLAND AND FLOODPLAIN REPORT
Clancy started by explaining the transportation improvements that need to be made to support the
expansion of General Mills, as defined by a required Environmental Assessment Worksheet (EAW). The
EAW identified two transportation improvements that needed to be made. The first project, which has
been completed, included signalization at General Mills Blvd. and Betty Crocker Drive, and the north and
south 1-394 ramp termini at General Mills Blvd. The second project includes the reconstruction of the
intersection at TH 55 and General Mills Blvd. and Boone Ave.
Clancy explained that in addition to the required improvements, staff recognized that there was a need to
improve Boone Avenue north of TH 55 from the 100 year floodplain, and to repair the uneven intersection
at TH 55 and General Mills Blvd./Boone Ave. Clancy then explained that the City has hired WSB and
Associates to design the project.
Jupe Hale, WSB Project Manager, gave an overview of the project. Items included in the project are as
follows:
• Add an additional left turn lane from west TH 55 to south General Mills Blvd.
• Add an additional thru lane on Boone Ave.
• Add an additional left turn lane from General Mills Blvd. to westbound TH 55.
• Improve the intersection of TH 55 and General Mills Blvd./Boone Ave.
Vaughan asked about the free right turn on the northwest corner. He feels that from a pedestrian stand
point it's dangerous. He wanted to know if there was anyway to improve that. Hale explained that they
have discussed the issue with MNDOT and without the islands, the signal poles would have to be set to
far back.
Sandler asked how the traffic would come off the service road north of Kare 11. Hale said that the
intersection would be closed and explained that they have proposed a new access road south of Kare 11
between the General Mills parking lot and Kare 11 parking lot that will continue west to Ensign Avenue.
Baker asked why there weren't any east/west crosswalks. Hale said that the plans are to encourage
crossing only from the north/south. Hale added that the City doesn't typically like to direct crossing where
there isn't a sidewalk for pedestrians to use. Baker said that crosswalks are also for bicycles and that
bicycles use the road. Hale said that it's something that can be considered.
Pete Willenbring of WSB, then gave an overview of the existing water conditions/issues regarding area
flooding and discussed the proposed improvements for the area, which include, added flood storage on
General Mills property west of the Brookview Condominiums. He pointed out the areas that are subject to
flooding. He said that the plan could possibly include a levee/dike to contain the floodwaters north of TH
55. He then explained that a lift station would be built to discharge runoff behind the levee during high
flow conditions in Bassett Creek.
Sandler asked if there would be a trail through the General Mills area. Clancy said that General Mills
agreed to dedicate a portion of the property to the City and that there would be some additional trails and
walking opportunities created.
McConico asked if there would be any additional open water. Willenbring said that they are going to
create more open water wetland. These areas will be vegetated and left natural.
Willenbring said the road construction will begin spring 2004 with the area north of Betty Crocker Drive
beginning in the fall of 2004.
Sandler asked how the project is being funded. Clancy explained that the project is part of the General
Mills EAW and that a Developers Agreement was signed with General Mills and that the money was set
aside through the tax abatement program. The taxes that are being generated from the General Mills
expansion are going to pay for the public improvements associated with the project.
IV. INTERPRETIVE SIGNS FOR PUBLIC STORM WATER PONDS
Oliver explained that as part of the surface water management plan, several areas were identified for
wetland and storm water enhancement. He said that the project in Brookview Park is being used as a
pilot project to create public awareness of buffer strips, native landscaping and bank stabilization. Oliver
said that buffer strips help filter water that drains into the ponds, which helps remove sediment and
nutrients prior to the local runoff reaching the ponds. The signs are an effort to educate people on the
value of the buffer strips.
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Oliver passed around a sample of an interpretive sign. Hill asked if the signs were vandal proof and fade
resistant. Klatt explained that they were designed with these things in mind.
Clancy said that they would limit the use of the signs to parks with ponds that people have access to
because they are meant for education.
V. TRAIL PAVING POLICY DISCUSSION
Clancy explained that the City Council asked staff to revise the City's Sidewalk and Trail Policy to create
criteria that would allow for exceptions to the City's practice of paving trails. She explained the proposed
revisions to the policy and then introduced Sherri Buss, of Bonestoo, Rosene & Anderlik, Inc., whom the
City has hired to review and comment on the City's Sidewalk and Trail Policy, as well as provide
information on various trail surfaces.
Buss gave details on her research, which included different options for surfacing trails and went over their
advantages and disadvantages. She also explained trail paving practices in other jurisdictions.
Baker expressed his surprise that there weren't any City's mentioned that deliberately left trails natural
(unpaved) in their City to give those who want a more natural experience that option. Buss said that it's
the county and state parks that provide a "wilderness" experience. She also explained that a lot of City
parks are really focused on a different kind of experience. She did say that what she heard form all of
them was that there was such a strong desire for access for everyone in the community (i.e. strollers,
handicapped, elderly).
Kuentz asked if there was any advantage or disadvantage of having paved versus wood chip trails along
streams. Buss said that the main concern is whether or not run-off from the trail drains into the stream. If
the trail is made of wood chips and it drains into the stream, phosphorus which comes from decaying
vegetation is draining into the water. She explained that if there is no buffer between the stream and the
trail, paving would be the best option.
Ladner asked what the incline was on roads and trails in Golden Valley. Oliver said that the grade on the
portion of the trail that go between the park and June Avenue vary from about 3% to under 15%. Ladner
asked if there are other grades in the city that are substantial. Jeff said that the grades vary on streets
and trails throughout the city.
Huber asked for further clarification of the information regarding grass pavers. Buss responded talking
about the need for water and sun for the grass to survive. Huber then asked about other gravel products
for surfacing trails. Buss responded highlighting accessibility and environmental concerns.
Hill asked if boardwalks were used much. Buss said that they are used in poor soil situations or across
wetlands. She said they are pricey.
Baker asked what the goal is in adding the two statements to the policy. Oliver said accessibility and
connectivity.
Ladner thanked everyone and commended the Commissioners for their volunteer service. Ladner then
stated that from talking to neighbors, it appeared that a majority do not wish to have the trail paved. He
then talked about other information that he would like to share with the Commissioners and distributed a
memo regarding the new revised trail policy proposal.
Baker then suggested that this topic be continued at a future meeting which hopefully would be a joint
meeting between the two Commissions in November.
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Sandler added that the Commissions have been asked by the City Council to make comments on the
changes to the policy. As Chair of the OSRC, he has been trying to keep things focused on what they are
supposed to be doing.
Ladner added that he would like some time at the November meeting to provide information from the
neighborhood.
VI. OTHER BUSINESS
None
VII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Moved by Roger McConico, seconded by Lance Ness to adjourn. Motion carried.
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