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Planning Commission
Mar 25,2019—7 pm
Council Chambers
REGULAR MEETING MINUTES GoldenValleyCityHall
7800 Golden Valley Road
Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 7 pm by Chair Baker.
Roll Call
Commissioners present: Rich Baker, Ron Blum, Adam Brookins, Andy Johnson, Lauren Pockl, Chuck
Segelbaum
Commissioners absent: None
Staff present: Planning Manager Jason Zimmerman, Administrative Assistant Lisa Wittman
Council Liaison present: None
Approval of Agenda
MOTION made by Segelbaum, seconded by Blum to approve the agenda of March 25, 2019, as
submitted and the motion carried.
Approval of Minutes
March 11, 2019, Regular Planning Commission Meeting
MOTION made by Brookins, seconded by Blum to approve the March 11, 2019, minutes as submitted
and the motion carried.
Discussion—Architectural and Material Standards
Zimmerman reminded the Commission that they have reviewed architectural and material standards at
several recent meetings. He stated that he would now like to discuss possible Zoning Code language that
addresses both areas.
Zimmerman explained that the proposed new section of Code will have a purpose statement that
includes the following guidelines: development and redevelopment within the City will be held to a high
standard with respect to visual quality, structural and ornamental elements are utilized to maximize
variety and architectural interest, building facades facing the public realm are active and engaging, and
the built environment is maintained in good condition.
Blum questioned if one of the Planning Commission's goals was to facilitate the transition between
different zoning districts. Segelbaum said he thinks it was part of their past discussions.
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Zimmerman stated that following the purpose statement, general architectural standards would be
listed that would apply to all structures regardless of zoning district. The proposed architectural
standards would include: varied massing to incorporate staggered building components, recessed
doorways, and other elements that provide visual interest; interesting roof lines that include pitched
roofs, dormers, gable or hip roof accents, parapets, cornices, and other interesting profiles; consistent
architectural treatment on all facades; and focal features that add interest or distinction to a building.
Johnson asked if vertical and horizontal articulation is what "staggered building components" is referring
to. Zimmerman said it refers to blocks of massing and breaking up the overall massing of a building to
create visual interest.
Zimmerman stated that the general standards will also include exterior materials that are divided into
Class I, Class II, and Class III categories with the Class I materials being the highest quality. He stated that
past conversations have included changing this to allow four classes of materials but upon further
research staff has concerns that breaking the material standards into four classes gets overly
complicated. Baker asked what led the Planning Commission toward having four classes. Segelbaum said
they thought that some of the Class I materials were very high end and could be separated out from the
list, and that there was a distinction among the Class I materials such as masonry/textured cement
stucco compared to glass, copper, or natural stone. Zimmerman said it was also a way to try and fine
tune different zoning districts and that the more categories there are,the more they can require certain
percentages of the different classes of materials.
Zimmerman showed the Commission several pictures of various types and classes of materials.
Segelbaum asked what class of materials Brookview used and if it would be within the scope of what is
being proposed. Zimmerman said he didn't do the calculations, but a large portion of the building is pre-
finished metal and concrete block (Class II materials) so it may not meet the proposed percentage
standards.
Zimmerman discussed several recent construction projects in the City including the Arcata and Hello
apartments and noted that much of the materials used in those projects are Class II materials with the
exception of glass and brick which are Class I materials. Segelbaum asked if the majority of the recent
projects used mostly Class II materials. Zimmerman said yes, he believes most of them would be a mix of
Class I and Class II materials. Baker stated that those projects are zoned R-4 and the proposed Code
language would require them to be composed of at least 60% Class I materials. Zimmerman agreed and
added that the proposed language is upping the standard and is also what St. Louis Park and other
nearby cities use.
Zimmerman referred to the proposed Zoning Code language and stated that after the purpose and
standards sections it addresses the individual zoning districts. He referred to the R-2 Zoning District and
stated that duplexes are currently the only attached units allowed and that they function very much like
a single family home, so staff is suggesting that they wait to write the architectural and materials
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standards for this district until townhomes or row houses are included as permitted uses because they
would be a better target for limited architectural and/or material standards.
Zimmerman asked the Commissioners about having some architectural and material standards in the R-2
Zoning District that would encourage row homes, or attached homes, etc. He showed several photos as
examples of traditional duplexes and of some town home and row homes. Baker asked how the City
could encourage the R-2 Zoning District to move is that direction. Zimmerman said staff will be
considering language later this year for the R-2 District that could allow town homes and row homes, and
not just single family homes and duplexes.
The Commissioners discussed various areas in the City that have higher densities and where this type of
housing might work. Baker suggested that staff bring the Commission some suggested changes for the
R-2 Zoning District.
Zimmerman discussed the proposed standards in the R-3 and R-4 Zoning Districts. He stated that a lot of
the proposed standards in these districts come from the existing language in the I-394 Mixed Use Zoning
District.
Zimmerman next discussed the proposed standards in the Commercial, Office, Institutional, Light
Industrial, and Industrial Zoning Districts. He stated that staff is proposing to wait on architectural and
material standards language in the new Mixed Use Zoning District until the rest of the code language is
written for that district.
Zimmerman discussed the proposed language regarding additions and expansions to buildings and
stated that it is fairly universal to require that additions comply with new architectural standards. In
regard to materials the proposed language stated that all facades of an addition or expansion shall be
composed of at least 90% Class I materials until the appropriate minimum Class I percentage standards
for the building are met.
Baker said he is satisfied having three classes of materials rather than four. Zimmerman noted that the
standards can always be evaluated and added to, or changed over time.
Segelbaum said he thinks having architectural standards makes good sense and is appropriate and that
the materials and percentage of materials required is worth a full discussion. He stated that developers
have said that in order to make a development economically viable there has to be ways to make cuts so
if that is true the upping of the materials standards would up the expense and he wonders if the City
would have the recent development it's had and if it will continue with these new standards. He said he
doesn't want the City to price itself out of development and is glad to know that the same standards are
used in other cities.
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Baker said there has been a flood of new housing so maybe now is the time to take action that causes
that to subside a little, but the City will be attractive again.
Pockl asked Zimmerman if other cities said that once they implemented these types of standards they
found that it was too cost prohibitive for developers. Zimmerman said some cities stated that they
received some push back, but most of the staff he talked to said their standards are reasonable and
developers have been able to meet them. Baker asked if it is possible that Golden Valley got all of its
recent development because there aren't these standards in place. Zimmerman said he doesn't know if
it was that or if it was just the demand for housing in the Twin Cities.
Blum said the City got a lot of architecturally interesting and nice looking buildings regardless of the
standards. He said they shouldn't be chasing development for development sake. He said he wants
development that is right for Golden Valley which is a higher standard and that is reflected in the
proposed new architectural and material standards.
Segelbaum asked the Commission what they thought about requiring 50% Class I materials in the Light
Industrial district. Blum said he was surprised to see such a high standard in the industrial districts. Baker
said he wants the industrial districts to be attractive too. Zimmerman noted that Brooklyn Park requires
65%Class I in industrial areas and many other cities require 50%.
Brookins said he thinks the proposed new standards are a big jump in comparison to what the City
currently has. He said he doesn't find a ton of value in it and that a lot of the industrial areas that the City
has serve a good purpose and he doesn't think the City will get a better purpose in those areas by
putting more brick on the front or back of a building. He said the industrial areas can be treated as such
and can use industrial materials.
Blum asked the Commission if they feel differently about industrial areas that border on zoning districts
that have higher standards. He added that the City has been granting more CUPs in industrial areas so
some of those might start to look more like commercial or office properties. Zimmerman noted that
there are codes that require different standards for facades that face residential or institutional
properties. Baker suggested that the standards be dropped a little bit if an industrial property isn't facing
residential properties, but he questioned what the standards should be if the property is highly visible.
Zimmerman said the City doesn't have very many light industrial or industrial properties that directly
abut a different zoning district, most of them are across a public street from another property zoned
differently. He suggested keeping the standards high when a light industrial or industrial property is
across the street from a different zoning district.
Johnson said the City hasn't had architectural or material standards up until now so he is struggling with
the character of Golden Valley because he doesn't really know how what is being proposed fits in with
what's already been built and how to apply the proposed code in the real world. Baker asked if it would
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help to have some analysis of what's been built. Segelbaum said that would give them a quantifiable look
at what's been done. Baker stated that they've looked at what neighboring communities have done and
he thinks Golden Valley would want to be similar. Zimmerman stated that there isn't really a good way
to determine the materials standards with buildings already built, but that he would try to provide an
estimate. Johnson said they would look silly if none of the recently constructed buildings come close to
what is being proposed. Baker said he is interested in what Golden Valley aspires to be in the future.
Segelbaum said he agrees with Johnson and said he worries that maybe the proposed new language
goes too far. He questioned if maybe it should be less strict in order to attract development.
Blum questioned if maybe the percentages should be lowered or if the type of materials should be
changed. Segelbaum said he is very much in favor of setting architectural and material standards he just
thinks the proposed standards should be relaxed by either reducing the percentages or by having four
classes of materials and requiring a smaller percentage of Class I materials and allowing a larger
percentage of Class II materials.
Brookins referred to the proposed language requiring 60%of Class I materials be used for R-3 properties
and questioned if that will work with the City's affordability expectation. Zimmerman said the proposed
language is modeled on other cities who have the same affordability standards, but he agrees that in
some ways there may be competing goals.
Baker said code language is adaptive and suggested trying the proposed new standards which set a
pretty high bar and then change it if needed in the future. He said he's heard compelling arguments from
the Commission about lowering the percentages in the Light Industrial and Industrial Zoning Districts but
he likes the percentages as they have been presented in all the other districts.
Blum noted that PUDs allow for flexibility and asked about the minimum acreage required for a PUD.
Zimmerman said two acres is the minimum requirement and agreed that they allow more flexibility for
things like the materials used. He added that hopefully the City will also get more redevelopment on the
newer mixed use sites.
Blum stated that if stucco and EIFs each drop down a class level he would feel more flexible about
lowering the percentages required. Baker suggested moving masonry/textured cement stucco to Class II
and changing the 60%to 50%as well.
Pockl said what she likes about having three classes of materials is that it offers more opportunity for
Class I materials which could lessen the load on cost prohibitive issues if there is more to choose from.
Baker said he would feel comfortable dropping the requirement of 60% Class I materials down to 50%
Class I materials in the R-3, R-4, and Office Zoning Districts if masonry/textured cement stucco is moved
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to the Class II category. Zimmerman asked for clarification regarding moving EFIS down to the Class III
category. Baker said he thinks EFIS should be left in the Class II category.
Johnson stated that they should either address this issue by finding out what is already in the City or
make a statement that it doesn't matter. He reiterated that he would like to have an idea on how some
of the more recent buildings in the City would or wouldn't meet these proposed new requirements. He
reminded the Commission that they can also request special studies as well. Baker said he wouldn't mind
seeing a limited analysis that would include just the most recently constructed buildings such as: Talo,
Arcata, The Xenia, Hello, and Liberty Crossing. Zimmerman said he won't be able to provide exact
percentages but staff can provide some analysis of how those projects would fit with the proposed new
language.
Blum said he thinks it is ok for them to be forward thinking and to at least match our neighboring
communities' standards. He stated that a lot of the recent projects mentioned would have had options
through the PUD process to have some flexibility. Zimmerman noted that there is also the clause in the
materials list that states "other materials not listed elsewhere as approved by the City Manager or
his/her designee or as recommended by the Planning Commission" which also provides some flexibility.
--Short Recess--
Discussion— Planning Commission 2018 Annual Report
Zimmerman gave highlights from the Annual Report and stated that Chair Baker will be presenting it to
the City Council at their Council/Manager meeting in April.
Segelbaum referred to the 2019 proposed work plan section of the report and said he thinks the
community would like to see small retail in the City.
Blum stated that the Commission has previously discussed gateway improvements and said that would
be a great way to distinguish Golden Valley and neighborhoods within Golden Valley.
Baker asked that the 2040 Comprehensive Plan information be moved up on the staff led
discussions/presentations list because the Commission spent a lot of time on that. He suggested that
strengthening large tree retention and small lot development be added to the 2019 work plan section.
Discussion— Board of Zoning Appeals 2018 Annual Report
Zimmerman referred to the Board of Zoning Appeals annual report and stated that there were 11
variances considered, nine of them were in the R-1 Zoning District. He stated that staff has continued to
work with applicants up front to help decrease the amount of variance requests.
Baker asked why there are so many variances in South Tyrol. Zimmerman said there were some new
homes built in that area on corner lots with two front yards.
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Segelbaum asked if there is a way to compare how strict or lax Golden Valley is compared to other cities.
Blum said his impression is that the BZA is very likely to grant variances and he is concerned about the
exception to the rule becoming the standard. Zimmerman said he thinks the BZA tries to help
homeowners and that they sometimes modify variance requests in order to not approve such large
variances. He stated that some clarity from the City Council may be needed on whether it is the BZA's
role to try and help homeowner's solve their problems, or if they should uphold the standards that are in
place and only grant variances for things that rise to a certain level.
Johnson added that many of the side yard variances are granted in order to allow people a second
garage stall which really is the norm.
Council Liaison Report
No report was given.
Reports on Meetings of the Housing and Redevelopment Authority, City Council, Board of Zoning
Appeals, and other meetings
No reports were given.
Other Business
Baker reported on a neighborhood meeting he attended regarding a new house that was built on a 40-
foot wide lot. He stated that the Council may be reviewing the regulations for these narrow lots.
Zimmerman stated that the Commission may be reviewing massing and height for these types of lots.
Adjourn
MOTION by Segelbaum, seconded by Blum and the motion carried unanimously to adjourn the meeting
at 8:41 pm.
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