12-9-19 PC Minutes
REGULAR MEETING MINUTES
Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 7 pm by Chair Blum.
Roll Call
Commissioners present: Rich Baker, Ron Blum, Andy Johnson, Lauren Pockl, Ari Prohofsky, Ryan
Sadeghi, and Chuck Segelbaum
Commissioners absent: Adam Brookins
Staff present: Planning Manager Jason Zimmerman and Planner Myles Campbell
Council Liaison present: Steve Schmidgall
Approval of Agenda
MOTION made by Johnson, seconded by Baker, to approve the agenda of December 9, 2019, as
submitted and the motion carried unanimously.
Approval of Minutes
MOTION made by Pockl, seconded by Johnson, to approve the November 25, 2019, minutes as
submitted and the motion carried 5‐0 with Commissioner Segelbaum abstaining.
Public Hearing – CUP Amendment
Applicant: Home Health Care Plus, Inc.
Address: 800 Boone Avenue North
Purpose: To modify an existing condition that limits the use of Boone Ave for loading, unloading,
and parking of buses and vans
Zimmerman introduced the request which involved revising an existing condition on Conditional Use
Permit No. 119 for an adult day care at 800 Boone Ave N. He stated that a condition was added at the
end of 2018 that prohibited the adult day care business from loading, unloading, and parking vans or
buses on Boone Avenue. In September of 2019, the business was observed to be in violation of this
condition. Staff sent a notice and was contacted by the operator who stated that they had never been
informed of the condition and needed to utilize Boone Avenue for their clients for loading and unloading.
Staff indicated that the only way to do that was to apply for a CUP amendment to remove or modify the
condition.
Zimmerman reminded the Commissioners that loading, unloading, and parking of vans and buses on
Boone Avenue had been restricted on the west side of the road due to safety concerns around visibility
while exiting driveways, but that the Commission had decided to restrict all activity on both sides of the
street and require it to be conducted entirely on‐site. He highlighted the way the site was being used by
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the adult day care, with approximately 175 clients using the west (front) entrance over roughly 65 trips
in an average day. Some additional trips are taken via a southeast entrance to the building within the
parking lot. He noted that bike lanes are being planned for Boone Avenue in 2020, likely requiring
parking restrictions along the street regardless of any conditions associated with the CUP.
Zimmerman highlighted the concerns the applicant had raised with moving activity off of Boone Avenue
to the southeast entrance, which included: a lack of accessible accommodations at that entrance, the
entrance being smaller in size, and the resulting longer trip through the building for clients. He noted
that two options has been proposed by the applicant as potential ways to accommodate continuing to
use Boone Avenue, including bumping in the east curb line to create a dedicated loading area or
constructing a horseshoe drive that would bring clients closer to the front door. He demonstrated the
various distances clients would need to walk to access the building under various scenarios.
Zimmerman pointed out that there are a conforming number of parking spaces within the existing
parking lot to meet the zoning code, and that front yard restrictions prohibit parking or drive aisles
within the front yard setback without a variance. He stated the Engineering staff had concerns about
traffic conflicts, queueing, the amount of impervious surfaces, and maintenance under either of the
potential solutions proposed by the applicant.
Zimmerman reviewed the findings necessary to approve a CUP and stated that staff did not feel three of
them had been met and therefore was recommending denial.
Baker asked if the parking analysis took into account the other businesses in the building. Zimmerman
said that the calculations were based on the square footage requirements listed in the zoning code.
Johnson asked if the property owner should be the applicant rather than the business operator.
Zimmerman replied the owner signed the application, but that the business operator was the one who
was asking for the modification to the condition. Johnson then asked about the number of clients that
are being served. Zimmerman replied that they are allowed to have as many as the MN Department of
Human Services allows, which in this case is up to 300. Johnson then asked if this was the property
where vegetation was removed along Bassett Creek without a permit. Zimmerman said that it was but
that the property owner had worked with the City to prepare a plan to reestablish vegetation beginning
in the spring.
Segelbaum asked for clarification about how parking spaces are assigned to various users of a property.
Zimmerman explained that staff evaluates if there are enough spaces to meet code, but does not delve
into the details of which users occupies which spaces. Segelbaum asked if there had been any
discussions about adding pervious surfaces to offset the impact of paving a portion of the front yard.
Zimmerman said no, but that it would likely be a condition of approval of any variance by the Board of
Zoning Appeals. Sadeghi asked if staff were aware of the actual percentage of the site that was
impervious. Zimmerman said that amount had not been provided.
Pockl asked if parking along Boone Avenue would be prohibited if bike lanes were installed. Zimmerman
replied that it would be likely if the project moved forward, but that making that decision would not
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happen until outreach occurred in the late spring of 2020. Baker asked if there were other recent
situations in which decisions were made in part based on future bike lane installations. Zimmerman
replied that it was discussed with respect to a recent action by Borton Volvo, but ultimately it did not
play a role in the site plan approval.
Blum asked if there had previously been a revocation of the CUP. Zimmerman explained that the City
Council had voted to revoke the CUP if no agreement could be reached regarding changes to the
approved conditions, but that the Planning Commission worked with the property owner and did agree
on new permit language so the revocation never took effect.
Baker questioned how the business operator could not have been aware of the restrictions in the CUP.
Zimmerman indicated that the property owner was aware of the conditions, but that it was up to them
to share the conditions with the tenants of the building.
Christine Eid, attorney representing the applicant, addressed the Planning Commission along with
Innessa Marinov, applicant, and Randy Engel, Buetow 2 Architects. They explained there were actually
three businesses operating within the building, including a rehabilitation business, and that Home Health
Care Plus had been in operation at the location for over 10 years. Eid conveyed that the operator was
not aware of the Boone Avenue restrictions and had not been knowingly engaging in a violation. They
stated that it would be extremely difficult to have clients travel through the building to reach the adult
day care area and that using Boone Avenue was critical.
Engel stated that he worked with the property owner to obtain the original CUP and had worked through
the recent amendment regarding after hours activities. He agreed that providing access for clients
through the building would be very difficult and pointed out that entrances to the southwest and
northeast were not accessible entrances. He disputed the staff findings that three of the factors of
evaluation for the CUP were found not to be met. He said that there have been no issues with traffic
congestion or accidents, that buses do not queue but arrive in a staggered fashion, that landscaping
could be added to offset the addition of a paved area in the front yard, and that any flooding could be
addressed by adding a drain to the storm sewer.
Segelbaum asked who would bear the cost of these proposed changes. Engel said there would need to
be an arrangement between the City and the property owner. Engel also claimed that the City had
previously granted approval to the owner to utilize Boone Avenue for drop‐offs and pick‐up and that the
introduction of bike lanes was unfairly impacting the business.
Johnson asked who is the owner of the property; Engel replied that Pro Partners owns the property.
Johnson asked who runs the business; Marinov replied that she operates Health Care Plus. Eid clarified
that the property owner was not present. Blum asked if there was any shared interest between the
property owner and any of the businesses in the building. Marinov replied that she did not believe so.
Sahdegi asked if buses park on Boone Avenue. Marinov said no, they only load and unload on Boone.
Pockl asked for clarification regarding the unloading of buses. Marinov said the buses arrive every five
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minutes to drop off clients and that there are additional trips out during the day that depart from Boone
Avenue.
Sahdegi asked if the applicant had looked at any interior modifications to provide better access. Engel
said no, they did not believe there were any realistic options. Baker asked if the northeast entrance
could be utilized. Engel replied that because it leads to a different business it is not possible. Segelbaum
stated that is appeared to be less expensive to enhance the southwest entrance or enhance the walk
along the west side of the building than to install a new driveway, with or without drainage.
Engel reiterated that internal modifications were not possible and apologized for not having a complete
floor plan available. Johnson pointed out that using one of the other entrances would get clients indoors
more quickly. Engel replied that using the other entrances would require walking through other business
areas and would be disruptive and would not really work.
Pockl pointed out that the spaces south of the building were off limits to parking for buses. Segelbaum
clarified with the applicant that no buses or vans were currently being parked in those spaces.
Blum asked Eid if she had background in evaluating the abilities of the elderly in terms of commenting on
their ability to travel through the interior of the building. She replied no. Blum asked Engel if he had
engineering expertise in order to evaluate the drainage situation in the front yard of the property. He
replied that he did not but that he has experience looking at similar situations. Eid added that denial of a
CUP must be based on facts and that the City would need to provide an analysis if they were
recommending denial based on those assertions.
Blum asked Marinov to clarify the ownership structure of each of the businesses within the building and
the owner of the property and building as well.
Blum opened the public hearing. Seeing no one wishing to comment, Blum closed the public hearing.
Segelbaum asked if all of the factors of the CUP evaluation needed to be met in order to recommend
approval. Blum stated that he believed that was the case and Zimmerman agreed. Segelbaum stated that
he believed the factor dealing with visual impact had failed to be resolved by the applicant. Baker
pointed out that the owner of the building would need to undertake any modifications to the property
and without the owner present he did not feel an evaluation could adequately be carried out. Segelbaum
stated that given the miscommunication surrounding the last permit amendment, it appeared to be
important to have both the owner and the operator present. Johnson agreed, and added that a full
evaluation of the costs of all of the various options would be worthwhile.
Baker recommended the agenda item be continued in order to allow the property owner to attend a
future meeting and discuss all of the options before making a decision. Segelbaum agreed.
MOTION made by Baker, seconded by Segelbaum, to continue the agenda item to the January 13, 2020,
Planning Commission meeting and the motion carried unanimously.
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Discussion – Narrow Lots
Zimmerman reminded Commissioners about the process and goals of examining the City’s regulation
around narrow lot residential homes. The previous meetings discussed setbacks, height, massing, tree
removal, and stormwater management and also a panel of realtors to discuss the current housing
market. Zimmerman explained that tonight’s discussion would include presentations by architects and
builders with experience designing for homes on narrow lots. Discussion would also cover lot coverage,
site design, and solar access. He noted that a public forum would be held on January 16 to gather input
from residents.
Zimmerman introduced the architecture/builder discussion. He noted that staff submitted some
preliminary questions to representatives from design‐build firms to get the conversation started. He
then introduced Gary Aulik and Charlie Peterson from Aulik Design Group and Doug Cutting from
Greenwood Design Build.
Aulik spoke first and acknowledged that a balance that needs to be struck when building on smaller lots,
and that there are a wide range of issues that a City Council must try to balance. But in his opinion
Golden Valley has been doing a good job of creating rules that address these issues. He said the tent‐
shaped building envelope, along with setbacks, is a good tool to address the concerns over how close a
new home is to the adjacent structure and how massing is controlled.
Aulik talked about the efforts Minneapolis made a few years ago to address similar issues and how the
results were not quite what was intended. He provided some drawings that demonstrated different ways
to construct homes on narrow lots that resulted in various massing configurations, and offered some
thoughts on the impact of regulations on the aesthetics of the homes. In his opinion, it is easy to design
homes that fit on the lot but are not especially attractive, but with some slight adjustments and with the
addition of some incentives, more visually interesting homes could be encouraged. One way this could
be addressed is by encouraging designers to lower the height at which the tent‐shape tips inwards in
exchange for offering the ability for dormers to be constructed across a percentage of the length of the
home. This would reduce the impact of wall height on neighboring properties and provide the
opportunity to gain some second floor living space, while at the same time breaking up the massing and
providing more visually interesting buildings. He admitted the costs of construction for this type of
design would be a bit higher.
Johnson asked about the usefulness of split‐level homes. Aulik replied that finished space below grade is
often discounted by lenders and so it is hard to get financing. Because of the way comps are calculated,
it is easier to build “up” instead of making use of a basement. Cutting commented that constructing split‐
level homes does not add much value to a lot compared to other options. He pointed out that designing
a one‐level home means the lot needs to be fairly deep, and that the option of building “up” is more
attractive to buyers.
Blum asked for clarification around the height of the dormers that might be allowed under an
incentivized scenario. Baker noted that in the conversation with realtors that there was a weak market
for one‐level homes. He also pointed out that much of the concern around narrow lots is the amount of
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shading that results from new construction. Aulik pointed out that flat roofs on garages also can help
reduce massing impacts. In closing, he asserted that encouraging good design should be a high priority
because it will result in increased values and more attractive neighborhoods.
Peterson commented on the issue of dividing tax parcels and suggested that the use of Accessory
Dwelling Units (ADUs) could be one way to incentivize keeping lots combined while adding value for a
new property owner.
Cutting pointed out that the articulation requirement leads to more interesting house designs, but
because bumping out into the setback area has limitations, it hampers the usefulness of that space to
the homeowner. Aulik added that limiting building width to 28 feet on a 40 foot lot leads to garage
dominated façades. Cutting pointed out that a 22 foot wide garage leaves only 6 feet for an entry.
Segelbaum asked if the presenters believed that the market was softer for 40 foot lots. Cutting stated
that one of his concerns were lots with an alley. Putting a garage at the rear of the lot eats up the back
yard with structures and driveway, leaving little yard space for the property owner. Segelbaum asked if,
with all of the challenges, it works financially to divide tax parcels and build on 40 foot lots. The
presenters answered that it does, but it is better if the regulations allow for more interesting homes to
be designed with good floor plans and that a 30 foot wide building envelope is much better. Cutting
added that leaving the lots combined makes it very hard to attract the investment needed to improve a
home. Baker summarized by saying that as much as neighbors may want combined lots to stay
combined, the financial incentives aren’t there and therefore addressing regulations to produce the
most attractive and well‐designed homes possible might be the priority. Segelbaum clarified that one
option would be to create regulations that discourage homes from being built on 40 foot lots.
Blum asked about side‐loaded garages and if they were a possibility on narrow lots. It was pointed out
that it was challenging on 40 foot lots due to the limited lot width and impervious limits. Aulik wondered
if shared driveways might help address this issue. Blum asked if a garage could be placed under the
structure, regardless of the entry point. Cutting described challenges with the slope typically needed to
access an underground garage.
Zimmerman then reviewed the lot coverage and impervious limit regulations in Golden Valley and
compared them to other peer cities. He noted that for the smallest lots up to 40% of the lot can be
covered by buildings or structures. Up to 50% of the lot can be covered by impervious surfaces – this
includes driveways, walks, patios, and swimming pools. Many other nearby cities allow similar amounts.
He acknowledged the previous discussion touched on site design, but pointed out that the R‐2 zoning
requirements do not require a two stall garage and therefore do not have the same façade implications
as narrow R‐1 lots.
Finally, he reiterated that the best way to regulate access to sunlight is to manage the massing, height,
and setbacks of homes.