pc-minutes-jun-22-20
REGULAR MEETING MINUTES
This meeting was held via Webex in accordance with the local emergency declaration made by
the City under Minn. Stat. § 12.37. In accordance with that declaration, beginning on March 16,
2020, all Planning Commission meetings held during the emergency were conducted
electronically. The City used Webex to conduct this meeting and members of the public were
able to monitor the meetings by watching it on Comcast cable channel 16, by streaming it on
CCXmedia.org, or by dialing in to the public call‐in line. The public was able to participate in this
meeting during public comment sections, by dialing the public call‐in line.
1. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 by Chair Blum.
Roll Call
Commissioners present: Rich Baker, Ron Blum, Adam Brookins, Andy Johnson, Lauren Pockl, Ryan
Sadeghi, Chuck Segelbaum,
Commissioners absent: None
Staff present: Jason Zimmerman – Planning Manager, Myles Campbell – Planner
Council Liaison present: Gillian Rosenquist
2. Approval of Agenda
Chair Blum asked for a motion to approve the agenda.
MOTION made by Commissioner Baker, seconded by Commissioner Johnson to approve the agenda
of June 22, 2020, after corrections are made. Staff called a roll call vote and the motion carried
unanimously.
3. Approval of Minutes
Chair Blum asked for a motion to approve the minutes from June 8, 2020.
Commissioner Baker asked for edits to the minutes on page 3 regarding a title error, an edit to a
statement he made, and a change to who made a statement. Chair Blum made an edit to the first
page, noting the order of when items occurred needed to be edited.
MOTION made by Commissioner Pockl, seconded by Commissioner Brookins to approve the May
27, 2020 meeting minutes. Staff called a roll call vote and the motion carried unanimously.
4. Continued Item – Zoning Code Text Amendment ‐ Proposed Adjustments to Narrow Lot Regulations
Jason Zimmerman, Planning Manager, gave a brief introduction on the City Council request, and
highlighted a few items of public concern that were not actually included in this amendment.
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Zimmerman displayed the list of items reviewed at the June 8th meeting and reminded the group
that the meeting was continued to today was because of discussion around second story dormers; he
reviewed what is currently allowed and what the proposed changes are.
Second story dormers:
Currently allowed, but must be within building envelope
Proposed change:
o Allow second story dormers to extend outside of building envelope in limited
amounts
o (+) Breaks up the shading that falls on adjacent properties
o (+) Creates more interesting architectural features on new homes
o (‐) More complicated framing (more expensive)
Zimmerman expanded on dormers by discussing shed dormers and gable dormers, as well as the
regulations when building them in to a second floor. Staff created a number of stills, mimicking
shadows on and around a property when dormers are in place. Of particular concern to
Commissioners was the amount of potential shade dormers would create, so staff showed
examples of three times in the year: Summer Solstice, Fall Equinox, and Winter Solstice, utilizing
actual location coordinates of a narrow lot and its neighbor. Displayed were examples of the
current regulations, then what the shading would look like with both types of dormers on the home
on the narrow lot.
Zimmerman moved on to address the previous meeting and the public hearing. He captured the
number of comments, those from folks who live on narrow lots and otherwise. He listed the
neighborhoods where most of the commenters live and their proximity to a narrow lot. He
reminded the group of the three phone calls that came in during the hearing and listed the top five
themes addressed in public comment.
Zimmerman ended by recapping the eight proposed changes and staff recommendation.
Commissioner Johnson asked staff if the shading models would become the standard for future
discussion around massing or density. Zimmerman responded that shading was just one of the
pieces considered when looking at topics like the one today. City Council specifically requested the
Commission and staff look at ways to reduce impacts of narrow lots and shading happened to be
one of those impact reduction items reviewed.
Commissioner Segelbaum asked how the sizes of the houses were determined in the shading
model. Zimmerman responded that they mimicked the two real homes, both on narrow lots, as
closely as possible. Myles Campbell, Planner, displayed a model showing the dormer options next
to current regulations. Baker pointed out two bungalows next to each other and noted the level of
shading in winter, adding that dormers do not drastically add to the shading at this particular time
of year. Commissioner Pockl asked to be reminded how much additional usable space is provided
on each dormer. Zimmerman stated there are a lot of variables but it’s somewhere between a half
and a full second story. Staff added that people tend to want a full second floor but there are
houses in Golden Valley that utilize dormers. Staff surmised that gable dormers tend to be used
less for added space and more for adding natural light. The conversation continued around
dormers, height options, split level homes, and other options to gain floors without adding height.
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Baker apologized to the Commissioners and the public for addressing the dormers so late in this
process. He remains concerned that the approach to building on narrow lots may be flawed
because it assumes any new home must be of a certain square footage and must have a full second
floor. Baker said he remains convinced that houses of that assumed size may be beyond what’s
suitable for the smaller lots. He also said that the group should pass along to City Council that the
City should focus and build smaller starter homes on smaller lots, this will create housing equity.
Commissioner Sadeghi said the thinks the group was getting too specific on percentages of
building items and staff has done a great job finding the right balance for the city code. The real
issue at hand is the subdivision of lots and that should be where the focus is. He’s concerned that
the group may create too restrictive of a code and make it too hard for owners to either rebuild on
their property or to do renovations. Sadeghi added that he remains firm on the stance he had two
weeks ago on this issue. The conversation continued around reducing impact and harm to existing
homes and neighborhoods as a whole.
The discussion circled back to dormers and potentially changing the percentages or removing
dormers all together. When looking at the dormer plan as presented by staff, three Commissioners
stated they were opposed: Baker, Blum, Pockl. Brookins stated his support of staff
recommendation as did Johnson and Sadeghi. Johnson added that if moving the shed dormer
percentage from 50% to 40% would help the vote, he recommends the group change that
percentage amount in order to move the recommendation to Council. Commissioners continued
their discussion and included staff on clarifications and shading examples.
Chair Blum thanked the Commissioners for the long process and quality discussions on this item.
He added a thank you to everyone who had a public comment and contributed points that helped
the discussions occur. Baker added that he wants the Council to consider equity in housing as a
modifier.
MOTION made by Commissioner Baker and seconded by Commissioner Brookins to adopt the
recommendation made by staff with two conditions: shed dormers be limited to a 40% maximum
and that the Planning Commission ask Council to reconsider aspects of building for the future and
housing equity in addressing how the City’s few smallest lots should be developed.
Segelbaum asked that the housing equity recommendation be a second motion.
MOTION WITHDRAWN by Commissioner Baker
MOTION made by Commissioner Baker and seconded by Commissioner Brookins to adopt the
recommendation made by staff with the condition that a home have a shed dormer regulation of
40% maximum.
Staff took a roll call vote and it passed 5‐2.
Aye: Baker, Brookins, Johnson, Sadeghi, Segelbaum
Nay: Blum, Pockl
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MOTION made by Commissioner Baker and seconded by Commissioner Segelbaum that the Planning
Commission ask Council to reconsider use of small lots in terms of building for the future and creating
housing equity in Golden Valley.
Staff took a roll call vote and it passed 5‐2
Aye: Baker, Johnson, Pockl, Sadeghi, Segelbaum
Nay: Brookins, Blum
Televised portion of the meeting concluded at 9:08 pm
5. Council Liaison Report
Council Member Rosenquist updated the Commission on the City Council discussion around housing
and equity and reported that the HRA would be more active in the future. The Rising TIDES task force
had provided the Council with some recommendations and action on those recommendations would
be coming soon. The City would also be moving forward to hire an Equity, Inclusion, and Volunteer
Manager. She reported on the variance appeals that were heard at the June 16 City Council meeting
and that the DMV would be opening by appointment only. Also, staff had produced a CORR plan for
addressing safety during the pandemic.
Commissioner Segelbaum asked about the response to temporary outdoor dining.
6. Reports on Meetings of the Housing and Redevelopment Authority, City Council, Board of Zoning
Appeals, and other meetings
None.
7. Other Business
Zimmerman informed the Commissioners that the City Council, at its meeting reviewing the work of
the Board of Zoning Appeals, had suggested that they would like to explore having a set representative
or two from the Planning Commission that would handle all BZA meetings. This direction was intended
to create more consistency at BZA meetings and allow the representative Commissioner to develop a
greater background with the operations of the Board. Commissioners were hesitant to leave behind
the rotation method that had been adopted in recent years, as it helped balance the additional burden
of a third meeting each month. Commissioners Brookins and Sadeghi both volunteered to attend more
meetings if that was the direction from the Council. Zimmerman stated that he would go back to City
Council and let them know the first preference of the Commissioners was to keep the existing format
of rotating members.
8. Adjournment
MOTION made by Commissioner Pockl, seconded by Commissioner Brookins and the motion
carried unanimously to adjourn the meeting at 9:25 PM.
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Adam Brookins, Secretary
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Amie Kolesar, Planning Assistant