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8-27-1979REGULAR MEETING OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION COMMISSION August 27, 1979 A regular meeting of the Golden Valley Open Space and Recreation Commission was held on August 27, 1979, at the Brookview Community Center. Members present: Chairman Bert Brown, Diane Asproth, Richard Lyons, Ray Petersen, Lowell Benson, Rhoda Jaffe, Robert Szyman, Emily Johnson, and Chuck Burmesiter. Also in attendance were Ginny Ginsberg, Peggy Leppik, and Bob Shirely of the Brookview Study Committee, and Stan Taber and Ruth Soby of the Ad Hoc Community/Senior Citizens Committee. The chair requested that the agenda be altered to permit the Chairman of the Ad Hoc Committee/Senior Citizens Community Center Committee to make his report first to allow the Brookview Study Committee to meet following the presentation. Members agreed to alter the agenda. Stan Taber, Chairman of the Community/Senior Citizen Ad Hoc Committee, presented a report. He briefly outlined the history of the Ad Hoc Committee, its charge, the processes it used to fulfill the charge, and he outlined the presentation made to the City Council. The committee felt that: 1. a. community center was needed, 2. the renovation of Brookview would be too expensive, 3. of the alternatives available, the Middle School was the best alternative, 4, if a new community center was to be built it should be built on the northwest corner of the Brookview property, and 5. felt the need to explore alternatives for the Brookview building to become revenue producing. Mr. Taber was questioned about the site selected for the community center, if it was to be built. He stated that the northwest corner of the Brookview property was preferred because of easy access to transportation and proximity to the library and the city hall complex. Ginny Ginsberg felt that not enough consideration had been given to provide day care center service in the community center. Jaffe responded that the committee found that there were too many requirements to fulfill, there was available space in local day care center facilities and the committee wished to avoid duplicating services. There will be room available for drop—in service for mothers taking classes in the community center. Taber was again questioned on the process used to define the scope of the Senior Citizen/Community Center. He stated that they called in experts in the areas of health, child care, and recreation at the initial stages. Several community meetings were held at the Middle School to get community input but these sessions were poorly attended. Finally, he stated that the sub—committee made arbitrary cuts of the needs originally defined by the experts. Ginny Ginsberg underscored the importance of social services, besides recreation to be part of the community center. Diane Asproth asked if the Center's facilities would need to measure up to private clubs to attract community people. She followed with a question that if they did, would the rates for use then exclude some of Golden Valley's citizens. The response was that the Recreation Department intended to run a first class operation which should be within the means of the citizens of Golden Valley. Open Space and Recreation Commission page two It was pointed out that the Council had asked the Commission to review the Ad Hoc Community/Senior Citizens Community Committte's report and to respond to the council's charge. Chuck Burmeister sought the basis of Brookview being deemed inadequate. Taber pointed out that the committee had tourned Brookview with Bob Van Hoe, an architect. He pointed out that such things as lack of insulation and the necessity of replacing the roof and some footings were examples of the deteriorated condition of the building. Peggy Leppik reminded the committee that no official decision to scrap Brook— view had been made, and, in fact, the Brookview Study Committee was to look at the question of the use of Brookview and its disposition. Chuck Burmeister questioned the need for the Senior/Community Center. He was told that demographics are available which project what the city will be like in the next 15 to 20 years. Briefly, Taber stated that the city was definitely getting older and thatthe need was there. Chuck Burmeister then asked about peoples attitudes and interests. Tabor responding that it it tough to determine these, but they have looked at the progression of activities and interest and made some judgements. The Chair thanked Taber and the Sub Committee for their hard work and the presentation. He then excused himself from the meeting to sit with the Brookview Study Committee. Rhoda Jaffe, vice chairman, replaced him at the chair. Rhoda Jaffe pointed out that since the first choice of the sub—committee was to purchase the Middle School, and that option had eluded the city, the Commission should now look at the construction of the facility on the Brookview property. John Brenna then reviewed plans for the basic building which would consist of 16,418 square feet, at a cost of approximately $48,50 per square foot. The cost for energy requirements for the building would be about $15,000 a year, which approximated the annual cost for energy for Brookview. A discussion then insued regarding the council's charge to the commission: Richard Lyons felt that the commission was looking at four separate things: 1. senior citizen center, 2. new pool, 3. golf club house, 4. community center. Rhoda Jaffe stated that the city council has determined that there is need for the community center and its charge to the commission was to identfiy program needs and priorities, and building construction needs and priorities. The commission agreed with that interpretation of the charge. Ray Petersen felt that the commission would need background information from the recreation staff to prioritize heeds. John Brenna said that he would arrange for the Recreation Department's staff to meet with the commission to identify needs and respond to questions. He also said that the Brookview Study Committee would report its findings to the commission. There was concern about the time available before the November 29th dead— line for the commission's action report on the community center to the Council and meeting the deadline may require special meetings. L� Open Space and Recreation Commission MINUTES page three The minutes for the regular meeting of April 23, 1979 were approved. The minutes for the regular meeting of July 9, 1979, were approved. The minutes from the special meeting of July 25, 1979 were approved. The minutes of the regular meeting of July 30, 1979, were approved as corrected. Amend page two, third line, to the end, with sincere gratitude to the temporary secretary. BROOKVIEW GOLF COURSE John Brenna reported on the fairway overlay plan for the Brookview Municipal Golf Course. The course is to close October 1st, so that P.M. Johnson Contractors who are now taking fill out of 194 would be able to spread it on fairways 1, 18, 2, 9, and 10, to correct the peaty, bogg swamp condition of those fairways. There are several reasons why this is being done. First of all, the ground is much too ,low, and after it rains, it is too wet. When there is a drought, the fairways tend to crack to the point, where, due to the unsettled condition of the peat of the fairways now have to be farmed every three years to take waves of peat out of the fairways. As those waves appear, machines used to maintain the fairways take terrible beatings. After the fill is spread, the contractors were also to spread dirt to within one inch of the control and seed it. The only park department expense will be to construct two ponds, extend the irrigation system, and additional seed in the spring. The course will not be back into full operation until middle or late July of 1980. While the overlayed fairways are developing, the remaining holes will be set up as a nine hold course, so that not all revenues will be lost between opening day during the spring and early summer. Chwck Burmeister and Bob Szyman questioned whether the remaining fairways could not be overlayed at the same time. John Brenna reported that the original plan called for a complete overlay, but that was under the assumption that the program could be started September 1st. The holes now being done are the worst five and highest on the priority list, and he felt that he could live with the others in their current condition. He is taking a conservative approach to insure that the revenue will be insured from at least nine holes all next year. Chuck Burmeister was afraid that by over— laying one year and then the next year, and a third year, people may become upset witth the course being torn up every year or every other year. BUDGET John Brenna then reported on the 1980 budget. He explained how the budget was built using weed control as an example. He explained that a lot of fluctuation between the 1979 and 1980 budget was because of the new accounting processes. The budget was reviewed program by program, and specific points questioned and explained. It was noted that there were no projections of income reported. There was considerable discussion regarding the fee system for the tennis courts. It was suggested that the results be reviewed and that the board be prepared to make recommendations to the City Manager and City Council in October. Open Space and Recreation Commission page four Dick Lyons went on record on being against the cut which appeared in the Youth Employment Service Administration. Chuch Burmeister stated that philosophically he doesn't like the cut, but that he could live with the $14,000. However, if it drops below that figure, he suggested that the commission should pursue the matter. MOTION Chuck Burmeister then moved that the commission is to pursue the cut in the Youth Employment Service Administration if the budget amount of 1980 drops below the $14,000 figure. Dick Lyons seconded the motion and it passed unanimously. John Brenna then made the director's report to the commission. He briefly reviewed the commission's tour of parks and park facilities, August 25th. Then he outlined the procedures being used to develop Laurel Avenue Ponds in compliance with the recommendations coming from the July 25th special meeting. Burt Brown had returned to the meeting and also reported on the Laurel Avenue Ponds project and identified council approval of the commissions' recommendations coming out of the July 25th meeting. An.InI IRNMF NT The meeting adjourned at 11:33 p.m. 644,� 6 2�x, �� Chairman UVice Chairman